ROUND TABLE 68 – HOW CAN A COACH HELP THEIR PLAYERS GET THE MOST OUT OF OPEN GYM OR PICKUP GAMES PRIOR TO THE START OF OFFICIAL PRACTICE? – EPISODE 986

Welcome to the 68th edition of the Coach’s Corner Round Table on the Hoop Heads Podcast. Each episode of the Coach’s Corner Round Table will feature our All-Star lineup of guests answering a single basketball question.  A new Coach’s Corner Round Table will drop around the 15^th of each month.

August’s Round Table question is:  How can a coach help their players get the most out of open gym or pickup games prior to the start of official practice?

Our Coaching Lineup this month:

• Jake Boyd – Eureka College
• Jerry Buckley – Bishop Kenny (FL) High School
• Erik Buehler – Arapahoe (CO) High School
• Joe Harris – Lake Chelan (WA) High School
• Dave Hixon – Amherst College
• Tim Jackson – Author of “Understanding College Athletics Through The Eyes Of College Athletes”
• Kyle Jurgens – Skutt Catholic (NE) High School
• Bob Krizancic – Mentor (OH) High School
• Joel Lincoln – Game Shots Basketball
• Dave McGreal – Penn State Altoona
• Brooks Miller – Trine University
• Don Showalter – USA Basketball
• John Shulman – University of Central Arkansas

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TRANSCRIPT FOR ROUND TABLE 68 – HOW CAN A COACH HELP THEIR PLAYERS GET THE MOST OUT OF OPEN GYM OR PICKUP GAMES PRIOR TO THE START OF OFFICIAL PRACTICE? – EPISODE 986

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[00:00:21] MIke Klinzing: Hello and welcome to the 68th edition of the Coach’s Corner Round Table on the Hoop Heads Podcast. Each episode of the Coach’s Corner Round Table will feature our all-star lineup of guests answering a single basketball question. A new Coach’s Corner Round Table will drop around the 15th of each month.

August’s Round Table question is, “How can a coach help their players get the most out of open gym or pickup games prior to the start of official practice?”

Our coaching lineup this month includes:

• Jake Boyd – Eureka College
• Jerry Buckley – Bishop Kenny (FL) High School
• Erik Buehler – Arapahoe (CO) High School
• Joe Harris – Lake Chelan (WA) High School
• Dave Hixon – Amherst College
• Tim Jackson – Author of “Understanding College Athletics Through The Eyes Of College Athletes”
• Kyle Jurgens – Skutt Catholic (NE) High School
• Bob Krizancic – Mentor (OH) High School
• Joel Lincoln – Game Shots Basketball
• Dave McGreal – Penn State Altoona
• Brooks Miller – Trine University
• Don Showalter – USA Basketball
• John Shulman – University of Central Arkansas

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Let’s hear from our panel about how a coach can help their players get the most out of open gym or pickup games prior to the start of official practice.

Jake Boyd from Eureka College.

[00:04:03] Jake Boyd: This is Jake Boyd, assistant basketball coach at Eureka College. I think the best way a coach can help players get the most out of open gyms and pickup games prior to the start of the season is probably a basic expectation of just quick, high intensity games to a certain number, led by your leaders, your captains, and then the use of constraints.

Whether you’re playing 3 on 3 or 5 on 5, purposeful constraints that match your actions or style. Whether that be something offensively like all players must score on a team, or end the game on a 3 or a paint score, maybe a 10 second shot clock. Or some defensive options like no switching, no doubling or switching everything.

And then letting the winners pick the next game type, use their basketball IQ to possibly take advantage of the other team’s weakness or capitalize on an advantage they have by using one of those constraints to their advantage. Look forward to hearing everybody else’s answer. Thanks for having

[00:05:15] Mike Klinzing: Jerry Buckley, Bishop Kenney High School, Jacksonville, Florida.

[00:05:22] Jerry Buckley: This is Jerry Buckley from Bishop Kenny answering this month’s questions about playing pickup in the fall. There’s three things we do that hopefully get our guys locked in and we get the most out of playing open gym. Number one is to usually keep our scoring pretty low. We’ll play to five by one.

Or if we’re on our sidecourts, because our sidecourts don’t have three point lines, but on our main floor, if we’re playing with ones and twos, we’ll probably play to seven or nine, just to make sure every possession is valued and guys aren’t just warming up as it’s going and the games drag on and nobody gets really anything out of it.

Second thing is, we make the player who scores the winning basket validate that win with a free throw. He’s got to make the free throw to finalize the score. If he misses the ball is live again and the point doesn’t count. The second time a team goes to validate their free throw, their win with a free throw and they don’t make it, they actually lose the game.

So obviously it puts a lot of pressure on the free throw shooter and it’s a good way to kind of get used to that. And then the third thing is keeping track of wins. We had a college coach in our gym years ago come to recruit one of our guys. It was actually a 6 a. m. workout we were having and he actually tracked the win.

How many games that player won over the course of the hour that they were playing pickups, just to obviously really put an emphasis on that. And that sometimes gets lost in the fall when maybe guys aren’t focused on that as much. So I think it’s good to track for individual players. Okay. Today you went three and five or four and oh, whatever the case is.

So it’s good to kind of make sure, again, you’re emphasizing winning. And plays that impact winning as well.

[00:07:04] Mike Klinzing: Erik Buehler, Arapahoe High School, Centennial, Colorado.

[00:07:10] Erik Buehler: Hey, how’s it going Hoop Heads? This is Eric Buehler, assistant coach at Arapahoe High School here in Colorado. And this month we were asked, how can a coach help their players get the most out of open gym or pickup games prior to the start of the official practice?

I think this is a route that you can go many different directions in. I would say for me, with pickup games and open gyms, I like to have a little bit of structure at open gyms. I know a lot of athletes come in and they have the idea of like, oh, this is just going to be fun, run up and down like we’ve been doing.

Over at the rec or over at the gym. And a lot of kids I see today, they need a little structure to make it competitive. So I’d say we like to do short, quick games, like first to seven or three, four minutes up on the clock. A winning team stays. Just to kind of make it a little more intense, make it a little more competitive.

And then hopefully they’re getting some conditioning out of it. Maybe this is the only time they play competitive basketball during the fall. And so you want them to be working and getting better. The other thing I would say to players, if they’re going out and playing on their own, I challenged them to play a little bit more one on one, a little bit more three on three.

Just because you can learn more in those types of basketball. You have to defend. You can’t hide anywhere in one on one. You have to develop moves. You have to develop your shot. Three on three, you get more touches. Little faster pace than maybe just a five on five rec game that you’re going to run into on a typical night over at the rec center.

So yeah, that’s kind of what we talk about with our players. We do with our players. Thanks for having me on again, guys, and I’ll talk to you next month.

[00:08:55] Mike Klinzing: Joe Harris, Lake Chelan High School, Lake Chelan, Washington.

[00:09:02] Joe Harris: Hey, Hoop Heads. This is Joe Harris from Lake Chelan, Washington, with this month’s round table question.

How can a coach help their players get the most out of open jam or pickup games prior to the start of official practice? Our state athletic association in Washington limits us to coaching our athletes only during our season and throughout the summer. So, this can be a little tricky. As the program head, I believe you must set some guidelines that your program stands on.

This should include warm up of some sort, have them play with a purpose, During a five on five, make them keep score, play games to 11 by ones, win by two, last game of the night ends on a stop, score, stop sequence. If you have a, if you have a tradition rich culture, this would allow you to lean on your former players and your returning upperclassmen.

Players who have been through it all before and have an idea on how to help you lead these Open Gym Nights. Hope you have found this of some value and as the leader of your program, I believe it is extremely important to set some boundaries which help your teams and players grow in the offseason. Best of luck as our season approaches. Thanks again.

[00:10:18] Mike Klinzing: Dave Hixon, Basketball Hall of Famer from Amherst College.

[00:10:25] Dave Hixon: Hey there, Hoop Heads. This is Dave Hixon, retired, Amherst College. You know, as I listen to, as I think about this question, how much things have changed and that now you get so many days that you can be with your kids. I don’t know if it’s eight additional practices before the start date, but you know, back in the day being with NESCAC we couldn’t start till November 1st.

And so we’d come back September 1st to school and we’d have September, October. Two full months without being able to even practice or talk to our kids rarely. And so I came across something really interesting, which I’ve talked about and a lot of podcasts, and that is a really cool little pamphlet slash book called coach like pop.

And it’s a wonderful little pamphlet. And there’s a lot of great ideas in it, but it gave me something which really worked effectively. And so I stole that. Yeah. And really what it is, is that you put rules into your game. And we used to have three or four good groups of kids because we hadn’t had tryouts yet.

And so we’d probably have anywhere between 16 and 20 kids that were down there. Nobody likes to sit out and games would be to 11 or something like that. And so you get one point for a basket and then you give additional points for things that you want to work on. So it used to frustrate the heck out of me to watch our guys play.

And nobody was rebounding. Everyone was shooting the ball and just turning running back down in the other direction. And so what we did was we gave two points for any basket that was scored following an offensive rebound. And all of a sudden now it means a little bit more. So guess what? Guys started to offensive rebound.

Guess what the defense did? The defense didn’t like that. And so they started to box out. And so we got better at rebounding both on the offensive end and the defensive end. A lot of times our kids would be afraid to throw the back door play because it was a turnover. And one less possession and, and next thing you know they’d be knocked out and so.

We gave two points or even three points for a backdoor, a layup. And next thing you know, guess what? Everybody’s going backdoor and trying it. Guess what the defense did? They adjusted too. And then it gave you a better look as to true options, whether you could go backdoor or whether you could jab and come back off the ball.

But we did that fast break. You know, our kids weren’t fast breaking very well. Again, not wanting to take a chance. And next thing you know you give two or three points for a fast break layup. And then it works the defense is gonna retreat quicker too. And so there’s all these little things you can do to make it more competitive.

And kids want to stay on. That’s the deal. And one point just doesn’t do it. And so when you can get two or three points for a certain you know, thing that you want them to do it really motivates them and makes them do it and makes the games even better. And so That worked for me. I hope it works for you.

Good luck. I hope you’re enjoying the Olympics and enjoy the rest of the summer.

[00:13:22] Mike Klinzing: Tim Jackson, author of “Understanding College Athletics Through the Eyes of College Athletes.”

[00:13:31] Tim Jackson: This is Tim Jackson, author of “Understanding College Athletics Through the Eyes of College Athletes.” This month’s round table question, how can coach help their players get the most out of open gym time, pickup games prior to the start of practice?

I think it’s important in this age of AAU basketball where players spend more time playing games than they do working on their skills. It is important that coaches set clear goals for players. I think it’s important that players and coaches spend their gym time focused on fundamentals and not just conditioning.

Players should use the open gym time and scrimmages focusing on shooting, specific ball handling. defense or whatever the goal for that individual and for the team. So it is important in my opinion, that coaches set clear goals of what they want their players to specifically work on.

[00:14:34] Mike Klinzing: Kyle Jurgens, Skutt Catholic High School, Omaha, Nebraska.

[00:14:41] Kyle Jurgens: Kyle Jurgens, Skutt Catholic High School, Omaha, Nebraska. When I think about the question, how can we get the most out of our open gyms? For us, it’s, it’s a few things, but we really want to keep it kind of short and sharp and highly competitive. And I feel like, especially like in an off-season format we’ll do a lot of skill stuff, shooting, ball handling, stuff like that.

And then we’ll play for 45 minutes, maybe at the end, an hour max. I just feel like in my experience, sometimes when you get past that in an open gym setting, as I said, it can get sloppy. You can start seeing some things you probably don’t want to see. And maybe it’s not as competitive. You get to the point where, well we can just play another game and we want every game to matter because when our season comes, every game matters. And so just keeping it as competitive as possible. Making sure the, the right guys are probably going against the right guys. Sometimes we’ll get creative, mix it up, play, make it, take it. Even if we’re playing full court, if we play in the half court, we only check up on fouls and out of bounds.

So we play it live through the net. Kind of like the Olympics just keeping that pace and intensity and competitiveness as high as possible. We always on game point, you have to make a free throw or it doesn’t count. Feel like that’s one way we can mix free throws and a little bit of pressure free throws into open gym situations.

And that’s been good to us too. So these are all our thoughts and some of the things that we do and, And so, like I said, just keeping it short and sharp and as competitive as possible throughout to me is the most important thing. So look forward to hearing other thoughts and thanks.

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Bob Krizancic. Mentor High School, Mentor, Ohio.

[00:17:18] Bob Krizancic: Coach K, Mentor High School. The answer to this question better be yes. You better be able to help your player. You could help them by telling them to guard the best player on the other team, every pickup game, every open gym, so they get better defensively. They guard a big, they guard a guard, so they’re versatile.

Offensively, work on their weaknesses, whether it’s ball handling, explosiveness, whether it’s a three point shot, getting it off quicker, whether it’s attacking the rim and getting it to the glass. So, although I do not like open gyms or pickup games, there are definitely some things that skill wise your player can get much better at. Best of luck.

[00:18:07] Mike Klinzing: Joel Lincoln, Game Shots Basketball.

[00:18:13] Joel Lincoln: Hi, Hoop Heads listeners. This is Joel Lincoln with Game Shots Basketball answering this month’s coaching roundtable question. How can a coach help their players get the most out of open gyms or pickup games prior to the start? practice. Number one for players, you need to implement what you’ve been working on all summer.

So using those moves you were working on and just continue to play fearlessly and work on your weaknesses. And then finally just really encourage players to use your weak hand and do things that are out of your comfort zone. You should be working on what you improved at this offseason. Coaches, I think you should play more 3×3, making sure the games are quick, high pace, a lot of possessions, encouraging spacing, IQ.

You can’t dictate actions, but you can kind of tell them how you would like to start a possession. I think when you are going full court, a couple things that are important. Number one, have short games to 7, twos and threes so that games are very, very important. The possessions matter and have an automatic loss or get the ball back.

If not, all five players are on the correct side of the court. And then finally, validate each win. Whoever hits the game winning bucket needs to make a free throw to validate their win. If they miss it, they go back to whatever their previous score is, and the game continues.

[00:19:45] Mike Klinzing: David McGreal from Penn State, Altoona. What’s

[00:19:51] Dave McGreal: What’s going on Hoop Heads Nation? Coach David McGreal, Penn State, Altoona. Back at you this month’s round table question. How can a coach help their players get the most out of open gym or pickup games prior to the official start of practice? Great question.

Open gyms, captain’s practices are things that obviously our level are very useful tools for our, for our student athletes to get a chance to play together for the first time, especially with some of the newcomers. So it is important that They get that, they get that ability to work together with new players to the program, hopefully try to teach them things that we do here both offensively and defensively.

One of the things we do the first week of school, we have individual meetings the first week where we look at their schedule and other things along those lines, but that’s the time when the coaching staff and I really pinpoint to each player what they need to work on in order to make an impact going into the season.

So obviously that’s a way that we can really dive into what we believe a player’s strengths and weaknesses are obviously really kind of motivate them to work on those while they’re playing pick-up while they’re doing open gym. Again, with some of the rules, we’re not allowed to watch it a lot per se.

And so obviously we’ll know if they’re working on those things once we get our hands on them in official practice time. So again, those are some of the things we like to see when these guys are, are playing pickup and open gym practice early in the fall. Obviously it’s an opportunity for them to work together, to get a chance to play with new players, new teammates.

But also then it’s time for us as coaches in those individual meetings to tell the guys what we believe they got to work on individually. So hopefully they’re doing that during pick up, during open gyms. So when we get them going on that first official day we can tell they’ve worked on those weaknesses.

All right. Hope that helps. Good to talk to everybody again. Good luck this year to everybody as we roll into August. And hope to talk to y’all soon.

[00:22:11] Mike Klinzing: Brooks Miller from Trine University.

[00:22:17] Brooks Miller: Brooks Miller here, Trine Men’s Basketball Head Coach. Open gym can play a really vital role in the development of an individual or a team leading up into official practice. But I think you’ve got to keep it simple. Get the players to understand, hey, this is what I’m working on this offseason that can make the team better when it comes to individual skill.

Maybe it’s hunting threes in transition or hunting a jump stop scenario. I need to improve on my jump stops. You tell a young man, hey, look, try to get three to five jump stops per open gym game and we’ll make the team a whole heck of a lot better. And also, collectively, I think when you’re talking about playing open gym, the more you share the ball, the better you can get at both ends of the floor.

Defensively, you see a lot of different actions. You see more movement. You got longer possessions. You gotta fight through them. Offensively, you gotta learn how to pass the ball. To teammates, especially if you have new teammates coming in that year, get a better feel for where they like the ball on the floor and you just get more movement off the ball.

So I think those two things pick one skill that each individual player wants to hunt and get better at, whether it’s a couple weeks into open gym and maybe build on that. But two, most importantly, as a team, share the ball, get the ball moving an open gym because one, a lot of people don’t wanna do it.

And two, it just makes you better in so many different aspects of the game.

[00:23:34] Mike Klinzing: Don Showalter, USA Basketball.

[00:23:40] Don Showalter: Hi, this is Don Showalter from USA Basketball. A couple things I think would help open gyms would be, first of all, have them do some skill development before just playing. Maybe make a hundred shots or You know, do a dribble cone dribbling or whatever. But have, have some designated skill development take place before they’re allowed to scrimmage five on five.

And then another idea that I think is really good is to play have a three on three tournament or three on three contests. Before you play five on five, this really gets the kids in a good mindset and the three on three is a really a fun way to get started. So I think those are two of the main things that I would recommend you do before you start an open gym.

[00:24:31] Mike Klinzing: John Shulman from the University of Central Arkansas.

[00:24:37] John Shulman: How you doing? This is John Shulman, head basketball coach at the University of Central Arkansas. And the question for this month is. How can a coach help a kid, help a player get the most out of pickup before practice starts? I think a couple things you could do, I’m not sure if you’re allowed to be in there while they’re playing pickup or not.

But have a theme for the day. We’re not setting any ball screens or we’re, we have to score off a ball screen or, Once you get the ball down the floor, you, you, you can’t, you have to play no dribble or you got to throw the ball in the post, have a theme for that game or to have a theme for the day.

And have an idea on kind of how they can score and, and kind of do something like that to help them have an idea on exactly what they can get out of that day. The other thing is I don’t know if you’re allowed to, but you could pick the teams. You already have the teams in mind and you let them know.

What teams are going today and, and, and how that works. The biggest thing that we have found is that to make them competitive and get something out of it is keep, keep track and keep a record make sure those records are posted and think that right there makes pick up more competitive.

If you’re keeping records and there’s one kid that wins every game, no matter who’s on his team, that will probably give you an idea. And the team an idea on who should be playing when the season starts. So I hope this helps. Pickup, I think is important if you are allowed to watch pickup, I think you ought to watch pickup and kind of keep your mouth closed and, and, and watch and because during pickup players go to the areas that they feel most comfortable and they, you can kind of, instead of trying to incorporate them into your offensive system, you can kind of incorporate your offensive system into what they do well. And so watch them play, watch them what they do well, watch them what they don’t do well, and, and try to do what’s best for the kid. And, and I, I think that’s if you’re allowed to watch pickup. There’s different rules in different states. And hopefully this gives you a little bit of an idea.

And good luck getting started. And If y’all ever need anything, just hit us up out here in Conway, Arkansas. Thanks and good luck.

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