Brad Stamps

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Coach Brad Stamps is the Head Boys’ Varsity Coach at his alma mater, Fayetteville High School in Arkansas.  Brad’s first job was coaching 8th grade basketball at Woodland Junior High where he worked alongside his mentor and former Fayetteville High School Head Coach Kyle Adams.  Coach Stamps later became the head coach at Shiloh Christian where he took a program that had won only one game the year before he arrived and turned it into a 28 game winner and state semifinalist in his final season. Brad also served as the head coach at Springdale High School where he won two conference championships in 6 years and led the team to a state runner-up finish in his fifth year. 

Stamps has also had several stints as an assistant coach and brings a unique perspective regarding the relationships, responsibilities, and skill sets needed to succeed as both a head coach and an assistant.  Throughout his entire career Brad has built relationships with his players and fellow coaches that have enabled him to have tremendous success.  Coach Stamps’ basketball journey has brought him full circle back to Fayetteville High School where he took over this past season when his mentor Kyle Adams retired.

In this episode Brad shares his personal growth plan, how it has impacted his life, and the amazing response he has been getting from coaches at all levels of the game.

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What We Discuss with Brad Stamps

  • Lessons he learned as an assistant for Fayetteville from his mentor, Kyle Adams
  • How he promotes his program in the community
  • Engaging the alumni as a first step at Fayetteville
  • Having Ronnie Brewer & Nick Bradford, both former players at Fayetteville, on his coaching staff
  • Advice on delegating responsibilities to your staff
  • Assigning responsibilities to your assistants during games as well as practices
  • The feelings he had walking out on the Fayetteville home court for the first time as Head Coach
  • Building trust and loyalty with your players and your staff
  • Brad’s philosophy on practice planning
  • Advice on balancing player development and team development during practice
  • Adjusting the length of practice and how that has changed through his career
  • The importance of having mentors in the coaching profession
  • His Personal Growth Plan – Improve physically, mentally, professionally, and spiritually
  • The power of a handwritten letter
  • Meditation, Reading, and Writing as a path to growth
  • Setting your priorities for the day in a daily script

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 [00:00:00] Mike Klinzing: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the Hoop Heads Podcast. It’s Mike Klinzing here with my co-host Jason Sunkle, and tonight we are pleased to welcome back to the podcast from Fayetteville High School in Arkansas, Brad Stamps, Brad. Welcome back.

Brad Stamps: [00:00:12] Thank you, Mike. Glad to be talking to you guys again.

Mike Klinzing: [00:00:15] Absolutely. We are excited to be able to have you back on since we last talked to you,  there’s definitely been some changes.

You were previously an assistant and now you’re back to being a head coach at your alma mater. I want to just give you an opportunity to tell us a little bit about what that, what that transition was like. And just again, describe your experiences for our audience. Maybe some coaches out there are going through something similar and they can learn from some of the,  lessons that you’ve been able to take away.

Brad Stamps: [00:00:45] You bet, Mike anytime you get the opportunity to come back to your alma mater in a capacity that I did with mine, I’ve talked about this before, but [00:01:00] the opportunity to come back and serve your mentor, Kyle Adams and spend those four years beside him. I’m learning as much as I could before he retired.

 it was special. And then,  the transition from going from assistant coach to him, stepping away and retirement and, and having the opportunity to follow in his footsteps.  was a big deal. It’s more personal,  than anything that I could ever imagine I’m talking about just because of what he means to me.

 but yeah, it’s been,   a fast and furious, I would say,  since we talked last time and it’s year one with the programs, head coach, and trying to make sure that you’re doing everything possible. To carry on a tradition that is special. That means so much [00:02:00] to so many,  has had its challenges, but there’s also been many rewards along the way.

Mike Klinzing: [00:02:07] Let’s start with going backwards to what you learned over your years there as an assistant with Coach Adams, what are some things that. You picked up some things that you have to continue to do things that he was great at things that you want to continue to keep the program where it’s been under his leadership.

Brad Stamps: [00:02:27] Well, we both,  you know, grew up in this, this system, in this culture,  you know, Coach Adams played  for coach Kretschmer. I played for Coach Kretschmer a hall of fame coach. And so. The philosophy and some of the scheme and some of those things that we got from him.  there was a lot of familiarity,  coming back and being with Coach Adams, because a lot of those things I was doing and using it, other programs that I was at along the way.

And so, [00:03:00]  the scheme,  was, was not difficult at all because it was, it was very similar.  as far as just the day to day,  just how he. Carried himself just how he had total control of the program.  and just showing me and others around him.  you know, what it, what it means to, to lead with class and dignity and, and doing the right thing, never cutting corners.

I’m always making sure that we’re, we’re staying on task and we’re moving in the right direction.  and you know, when things pop up, you deal with them and you move on. And so those things carried more weight for me just because I knew the scheme and I knew him.  cause I played in his system, number one, but we played in the systems with coach stretch mine as well.

So that part was easy and familiar. But just the day to day of how he carried himself [00:04:00] and led a program,  was big for me.

Mike Klinzing: [00:04:04] I would think that with someone who’s been in the community for so long, like he was and somebody who obviously hearing you describe him now, multiple times, just the way he carried himself on a day to day basis.

I think that what I hear coming through from you. Is the need for you to continue to set that example for your staff or your players for the greater, greater basketball community there in Fayetteville. Is that how you kind of look at it as you have to sort of be the public facing person that represents the program to everybody and it all trickles down from you.

Brad Stamps: [00:04:45] That’s such a good point. I’m constantly checking myself, is this, is this something that I should be doing? Is that something that I need to do as far as promoting the program and doing all the little things outside of just the [00:05:00] Encore stuff and you know, whether it’s a speaking engagement or whether it’s being involved in something in the community, you know what?

I always have to look at it that way. And I know Coach Adams gets probably sick and tired of me texting him or calling him on certain occasions that pop up just for guidance on, is this something that I need to be looking into, but. Yeah. And it also is a huge responsibility and something I don’t take for granted .

Mike Klinzing: [00:05:28] Your first day on the job, or even as you were starting, thinking about what you were going to do with the program and how are you going to try to continue the tradition?

What did you think was going to be your biggest challenge. And then as you went through the first year, did that challenge that ended up, did that end up being the biggest challenge or was there something else that came up that ended up being bigger than maybe what you thought?

Brad Stamps: [00:05:53] Yeah, my God the biggest challenge I think for right off the bat was, [00:06:00] and it may not necessarily have been a challenge, but it was just, I wanted to make sure that we reached out and touch base with as many former alumni.

 you know, guys that I know that I played with, or even before or after that for whatever reason weren’t coming to games or couldn’t come to games and, and I wanted to touch base with them and, and,  and let them know how important they are and how vital they are to be a part of our program.

And so,  I don’t know if that’s a challenge or not, but it definitely was something that was for me day one was.  making sure that I reached out and touch base with as many alumni as I possibly could. And,  it turned out to be a blessing,  to see as many new faces and, and guys in the stands and our games,  that we did.

Mike Klinzing: [00:06:52] What did that mean to your current players when they saw the number of alumns that you’re able to give back and sort of bring back into the fold of the program?

[00:07:00] Brad Stamps: [00:07:00] Well, it’s a big deal. Mike, when we talk all the time about tradition and we talk about the guys before you,  kind of paved the way for all of us, myself included.

And so we made sure that we brought in guest speakers.  you know, guys that have played there before,  came in and spoke to our guys in a team meal, or they spoke to them after practice on maybe a Friday or a Thursday afternoon game,  for Friday’s game. And, and to hear those guys tell stories about what Fayetteville high school meant to them, the memories they created.

 the big games they played in our guys were, were big guide,  you know, myself and, and a couple of my staff they played there as well. And so,  we were all thrilled to have different people coming in, share their stories.

Mike Klinzing: [00:07:53] Absolutely. That’s the perfect time to segue into asking you about how you put together your coaching [00:08:00] staff.

And obviously you have two guys on there. Who are very special to you. So I’ll let you go ahead and explain who those guys are, why they have such a tremendous connection to the program and why it’s so important to you to have those guys on your staff.

Brad Stamps: [00:08:17] You know, Nicky Bradford and Ronnie Brewer are the two that you’re talking about.

And they were both grew up in Fayetteville. Like I did.  you know, grew up in the boys and girls club, the, the youth center leagues,  all the way through,  went through the junior high and came to Fayetteville high school. And both of those guys were very successful as high school players.

 Ronnie Brewer ended up obviously going to Arkansas and being an impact player for the Razorbacks and then was a lottery pick in the NBA. And, and,  you know, he could have, he played nine years in the league and, and you know, the biggest thing, Mike, with Ronnie that [00:09:00] I respect more than anything else is all the experiences he had and the places he live in the NBA and different cities.

 he could have really set up shop anywhere in the country. He could have. Any, any place that he played at, he could have built a home or done whatever he wanted to do, but for him to come back,  where his roots were and, and set up shop here and reach out and say, coach, I I want to get into coaching.

 can I, can you use me? And it was such a big deal for me. And partially it means a lot Ronnie played for me as a seventh, eighth and ninth grader with coach Adams.  and then when I moved up to the high school, I had him 10th, 11th, and 12th. And so just knowing him on a personal level and then him coming back and wanting to be a part of this special program,  you know, that’s, there’s a lot to be said about that.

Nicky Bradford. You know, it was [00:10:00] another, a little older than Ronnie graduated in 96 from Fayetteville high school. And they were both Gatorade player of the year, by the way,  in our state and Nicky went to Kansas to play for Roy Williams and then had an opportunity to go play professionally overseas.

I got into coaching was coaching a different couple of different junior college stops along the way, and a division two. And then reached out to me when the, when I got hired for the assistant job and wanted to come back to his own daughter and Fayetteville. And that, that means a lot when you’ve got guys that have,  grew up in the system, played in the system, have gone on and had their professional careers.

And then wanted to come back and be a part of this. And so it’s, it means a lot to our community. It means a lot to our kids.  for our players. So look up on the wall and see two Gatorade players of the year that are on their coaching staff that have done a little bit of everything in the game.

[00:11:00] It means a lot to a lot of people.

Mike Klinzing: [00:11:04] To me, the word that keeps popping into my head as you’re talking about, both of those guys is just humble. The fact that both of them will come back after clearly the success that they’ve had in the game. As players, I’m sure that had, they wanted to pursue other opportunities.

There would have been other opportunities besides coming back to their own high school to be not the head coach, but to be an assistant coach. And to me that just shows the connection that they feel with the program, the pride that they have in it. And I’m sure that that’s something that they pass along to your kids every single day.

Brad Stamps: [00:11:44] No, there’s no question.  just the passion that they have, the,  just the connection with not just our kids, but even the, the community. Cause a lot of the community like,  they grew up watching Ronnie and Nicky [00:12:00] and, and  you know, to have them coaching their kids,  means a lot to them and, and they don’t hesitate on letting them know that and that, that, that means a lot to them.

Personally, but yeah, just,  you know, it’s, we call it Purple Pride. Our school colors are our purple and why it’s, it’s a big deal for us. We, we all have a lot of pride in our school, our community, and, and definitely a little basketball.

Mike Klinzing: [00:12:26] How do you divide up the responsibilities between yourself and your assistant coaches?

Do you have a set formula for this coach? Does that this coach does this other thing or. Is it more where everybody kind of has different things they’re looking out for in a particular practice or a drill. Just explain to us how you organize your staff so you can maximize what they can each bring to the table.

Brad Stamps: [00:12:51] Yeah, no, that’s, that’s good. I’m glad I got a chance to talk about that because two guys, I didn’t mention that are bottled or program or our two freshmen coaches are [00:13:00] freshmen.  or a part of the high school now,  they have, obviously they have their own freshmen teams, but they’re in our building. And so Jeff Bogart coaches, one of them and Jordan Rose coaches, the other, they both been active in our community and coaching our junior high kids for, for quite some time now.

And, and they’re on our high school staff as well. And so,  we do have very descriptive,  job descriptions that we kind of talk about at the beginning of the season,  we choose things that,  you know, that we’re strong in or, or maybe that were weekend. We delegate to somebody else, but it’s a collective responsibility.

And we talk about that collective responsibility often,  that we all want to do our part. And so I have a lot of trust in our assistant coaches and so. You know, we give Jordan Rose and,  you know, and myself, we, we do the offensive side of the, of the ball right now and spend a lot of our time there.

 Nicky [00:14:00] Bradford, Ronnie brewer and coach Vogel, or Jeff, they, they do a lot of the defensive stuff. And,  Nicky comes up with the, the defensive game plan as far as our match ups and,  Jordan and myself talk about the offensive side and. And then Tyler Macola, who was with us, there was another Fayetteville alumni that our film stuff this last year, and he’s just recently taken a job at our junior high.

So it was, it was a great staff. And we’re when you surround yourself with great people, number one, that, or you can talk about their coaching, but great people. You surround yourself with those. They, they make a difference and they cover a lot of.  weaknesses that I have for me. And you’re not, don’t ever hesitate to let them know how valuable they are and what I value in them.

Mike Klinzing: [00:14:51] What are some things that you think that those guys on your staff bring that are areas maybe that either a, you [00:15:00] are maybe not as strong at, or B maybe just something about that you, something that you don’t enjoy, maybe as much as somebody else does. So just kind of maybe give us where they fill in the gaps for you.

Brad Stamps: [00:15:13] No. I don’t want to be one of those coaches that,  trying to think of the best way to say it, that maybe,  just takes a step aside and let other people do everything. I do want to have a lot of control,  but at the same time, like I said, it’s, it is a collective responsibility. And so Nicky obviously.

Defensively he’s in the all time top 10 steel’s leaders at Kansas. And so his defensive,  fundamentals and the things that he can teach defensively,  matches right up with the way I want to play and the style that I want to play and that I’ve always wanted to apply. And Jeff Belgard has, has done a tremendous job and our younger [00:16:00] kids have.

Of really talking about man to man defense and teaching those basic fundamental skills of defense at an early age. So when those kids get up to the high school, they know exactly where they’re supposed to be on helpline and, and,  you know, and, and being able to guard the ball and, and then Jordan Rose.

You know, offensively, he does some things with his freshmen team that match up with the way I want to do things offensively. And so we spend more time talking about different ways to attack defenses and those types of things. And then Ronnie,  you know, Ronnie and we laugh about this and now I’ve kind of.

 on our bench this year, a lot of people would ask us you’ve got four of us setting down towards the end of the bench. And then Ronnie has placed in the middle of our bench and people ask me, why is Ronnie down there? And I said, well, Ronnie is, he is our team psychologist and psychiatrist.

Every time a kid comes off the floor, good, bad, indifferent, whatever it is. And they [00:17:00] go straight and sat down beside Ronnie. Cause he’s got such a good demeanor about himself, but he also is knowledgeable enough to listen,  and then give his his wisdom and advice to get them ready to go back in the game.

And so that’s a valuable,  valuable tool to have. And, and Ronnie really excels in that role.

Mike Klinzing: [00:17:20] I think that’s something that coaches, a lot of times when you’re thinking about what your assistants do, I think it’s easy sometimes to overlook. What your assistants do during a game? I think a lot of times coaches put a lot of emphasis on what their responsibilities are during practice or off the floor.

And then in games, sometimes that stuff gets lost and everybody’s kind of doing their own thing. And the head coaches over here and the assistants are there and there’s not necessarily. A set set of responsibilities. And I think that when I hear you talking about Ronnie being a psychologist and you have somebody that kind of focuses on defense and somebody else that’s on offense.

To me, [00:18:00] that makes sense that that carries over from practice into a game setting where most coaches know the things that they’re responsible for. And then that allows you as the head coach to focus on the things that you need to focus on in order to have your team ready to play, ready to play, and be prepared to win.

Brad Stamps: [00:18:16] No question about that. When we go into a game, we all know specifically,  what our role is and what we’re supposed to be focusing on for that game.  it just makes my job a lot easier,  because you’re not hearing All of these voices maybe,  that you normally would, but you know, it you to,  an inbound play or you need a press office or you need a set to be called,  you know, specifically that one on one conversation before the timeout or during the time out of this is where we’re going.

 that just makes it a lot easier to manage a game. For sure.

Mike Klinzing: [00:18:58] I have a question for you. This is [00:19:00] just out of my own. Personal curiosity. And that is in your pregame talk and in your post game talk, do you yourself do all the talking or do you provide time for one of your assistants to talk or is it a feel thing or some games and assistant might talk other games?

They might not just explain what your pre and post game talks look like in terms of how much you’re talking versus how much maybe an assistant gets an opportunity to talk.

Brad Stamps: [00:19:29] I would say free game. Most of the time, it’s myself. 90 percent of the time I may give what I need to be said.

And then you say, Hey, coach Bradford, or,  do you have anything defensively?  but most of the time that’s already been communicated,  previous to, to that,  it’s more or less just getting the guys. You know, focused and ready to go break a sweat and warm up. So most of the time that’s me.  halftime, we, we, [00:20:00] all the kids go into the locker room and our staff,  sets out in the, in the hallway or stands in the hallway and we are working, communicating on what the numbers are or how many defensive rebounds or offensive rebounds we’ve given up how many turnovers we have, where our shots are coming from.

And then we carry those, those conversations into the locker room at halftime. And there may be opportunity at halftime for other staff.  to speak on, on what they see as far as offensively or defensively, but it’s brief.  and then after the game, post game, most of the time, or hopefully most of the time.

And we’re running in there. You’re showing our best dance moves and celebration seems to be a big deal with us.

Mike Klinzing: [00:20:45] Absolutely. That’s good. That’s good stuff. Yeah. Turn it over to the kids. Right? Let them, let them dance away. When you win games,

there’s nothing better than that. All right. Let me ask you this.

When you walked out on the floor for the first time as the head [00:21:00] coach in a home game, just take us back to that moment. What did that feel like for you?

Brad Stamps: [00:21:04] Well so many emotions,  for lots of reasons,  one, you you play that at a place and then you, you go away and you come back and you spend all those minutes.

 you know, when you’re idle time thinking about what it would be like, and you never really kind of grasp it until it’s there. And I specifically remember. You know, as we talked about our our pregame speech and I think I probably even got a little emotional,  for whatever reason, it just kind of hit me.

It wasn’t a big game or a great big game. It was just a game.  but I just remember for me,  just that emotion,  talking to the kids and they felt it and they knew it and they, they knew a little bit about it, but,  and then going out and warm [00:22:00] ups and as your national anthems being played, and our flag is placed where it’s, it’s up in the rafters.

And so you get to look around the arena and just see in the faces and the people that I grew up with.  and then even their parents, you saw every generation of bulldog.  that was in the bleachers. And that, that just makes you feel really good that you’re a part of something special.

That means something to so many people.

Mike Klinzing: [00:22:28] Were you able to verbalize that with your team at all? Or was that something that you just kind of kept internal?

Brad Stamps: [00:22:35] No, I kept internal, but they felt it and they, they knew,  you know, it’s getting more done at home and their coaches get a little emotional, so they understood why.

And, and,  you know, I, I specifically remember a couple of seniors when we were walking off the floor to the locker room. They. You know, whether it was an arm around me or the conversations were, this one was true [00:23:00] type stuff, and that just makes you feel good. You know, they understand the magnitude of it.

 and,  make no bones about it. We, we talk about what tradition means and, and all those things and so we’re constantly preaching about it. So they understand.

Mike Klinzing: [00:23:18] How do you go about building those relationships with the kids on your team? I know when you take over as a head coach, obviously that relationship changes to some degree from where you were as an assistant.

So what was that? Transitioned, like from a relationship with the player standpoint, as an assistant, you’re not the guy determining their playing time now as a head coach. You are. So just describe for us how you handled that transition with the relationship with players.

Brad Stamps: [00:23:48] Yeah, I think right off the bat.

You know, just being open,  letting them know that because the role has changed. That doesn’t mean the relationship changes one bit from me to them, [00:24:00] might for them towards me, but,  you know, allowing them to, to voice and, and always had an open door policy. And we talked about a one minute rule where one minute, a day or one minute.

You know, they have to come by and stick their head in the office and just tell me something about their day or whatever it is. Doesn’t have to be anything about basketball, but the relationship is anybody that would tell you anything about me that knows me in coaching. That would be the number one thing that I think people would tell you is the relationship piece for me is by far the most important thing to me.

And to me, it’s, it’s the biggest thing,  moving forward is,  those special relationships with kids. And that’s why I’m in this business.  and I I’m always talking to our players about things. And so that, that piece didn’t change. Now, I will tell you this, [00:25:00] that, and you know, and anybody who’s been in coaching knows that a lot of times,  those assistant coaches and I was there, that the parents or the kids will come to you.

 before they’ll ever come to the head coach, whether it’s a complaint or playing time or something, they’ll always go to that assistant coach. So I just made sure my assistant coaches understood.  kind of what that’s gonna look like and then making sure that they request with, with answering those questions and, and,  when you surround yourself with people that you trust and that are loyal, you don’t ever worry about those things.

Mike Klinzing: [00:25:38] You had to go along with that with you when you’re working with your staff and you’re talking about strategy, or you’re talking about ways to handle players and the relationships and thinking about playing time and who’s getting what minutes. Maybe, just talk about a little bit about what your process is like behind closed doors.

And then once you leave that coach’s office [00:26:00] getting on the same page so that everybody is putting the same message out there to your basketball community, what does that process look like for your staff? As far as the individual playing time, just in terms of you and your coaches behind closed doors.

Talking things out, maybe there’s something that you disagree about on could be on offense, defense amount and amount of time a kid plays, maybe it’s even during a tryout situation where you’re trying to decide which of these two kids. You keep just talk a little bit about what that process looks like behind closed doors, and then what you do to make sure that everybody comes out with a unified front when you leave the coach’s office.

Brad Stamps: [00:26:37] Yeah. That’s that’s. Number one with our staff is we’re going to have differences. We’re going to have difference of opinions and we are constantly challenging each other. And I think that’s a great staff. That’s what you do.  you know, we, I won’t claim that I have all the answers and I don’t think any of my staff would either, but.

[00:27:00]  we have many of those sessions behind closed doors of a depth chart. Preseason of who’s placed where,  we have conversations about maybe how we want to,  guard the other team’s best player.  we have all those conversations and they do take place behind closed doors. And,  even though they may get, I wouldn’t say heated, but they get a heavy debate sometimes.

 at the end of the day, and before we take the floor, we’re always unified and we’ve always I feel like we’ve made the best decisions as a staff.  our players will never see us and that we pride ourselves on this.  cause I think this is such a big deal. Our players will never ever see us in any capacity challenge each other in front of them in a practice or at a game.

I don’t think that’s healthy.  I don’t think that that’s good. And so [00:28:00] we, we make sure that, that they don’t see that a lot of our, our, our things are going to be handled behind closed doors. And we leave that,  you know, the, the importance is the trust and the honesty and being transparent with each other, are ways we sort of build on that

Mike Klinzing: [00:28:16] and thinking about how you go about putting together.

Your daily practice plan. What is the process for you when you sit down and it’s a Wednesday and you got to plan Thursday’s practice. So it’s Wednesday night and you gotta get ready for practice on Thursday. What does that look like? How are you going about doing it? Are you getting input from all the assistants?

Are you creating the plan first and then going to them? Where are you doing it? When are you doing it? Just talk a little bit about your practice planning.

Brad Stamps: [00:28:48] Yeah, we practice planning is such a big, big, important part of, of what we do. And we want to be prepared. We want to plan well. And so, yes, I’m highly [00:29:00] involved in the majority of the practice planning.

 but like I told you before we’ve got certain individuals that are doing different things. And so I may go to, to coach Bradford and to Nicky and say, Hey what do we need to do? Defensively? What do you want defensively tomorrow? How much time do you need for defense?  to get maybe what he’s thinking, and then I’ll go to Jordan and say, okay, what are we, what do we need to install?

Do we need to spend more time on, on this or that,  or offensively. And then,  I spend time in my office,  scripting out a practice plan and then I’ll send it,  as a as a blanket email to, to all of them.  specifically saying, Hey, here’s here’s tomorrow’s plan and they always get it either the morning of,  for the afternoon or they’ll get it the night before,  of what we’re specifically going to do.

And it’s, it’s pretty,  descriptive as far as. [00:30:00]  you know, the time,  cause we have, we have managers in our program that, that run the clock during our practice,  bagel and operating off the script, but also having time management and making sure that we’re on pace.  during our practice.

And so our manager said at the scores table and they, they specifically know which session has 10, 15 minutes or, or whatever.  and that’s, that’s kind of how we manage it.

Mike Klinzing: [00:30:29] What’s your philosophy on if you have. Let’s say 10 minutes budgeted for a particular drill, but you’re not quite getting what you want to get out of it.

And you get to that 10 minutes. Do you cut it off at that point? And just say, boy, today’s not our day with that particular thing. And we need to move on to the next thing. Or do you say, okay, we’re just going to, excuse me, run that over a little bit, to make sure that we’re getting down the things that we need to get done.

Brad Stamps: [00:30:52] If I feel like it’s of great importance, something that if we’re specifically game planning for [00:31:00] somebody,  as far as in season, and I feel like we really need to get it, then yes, we will. We’ll spend more time,  trying to get it right before we leave that day. And that made me cutting something else out of the practice plan.

But for the most part, we try to stay on task as far as what that script is.

Mike Klinzing: [00:31:19] How much time would you say. Comparatively do you spend on individual player development? You could define that. However you want to define it versus team stuff that you’re actually going to be trying to execute in a game. Where do you, how do you strike that balance?

Does it vary at different points in the season? Just talk a little bit about your philosophy in terms of balancing those two things together.

Brad Stamps: [00:31:45] Yeah, I think it does vary as far as time of the year we’re pre season. We look at an August. And when we get back in school was what I’m talking about, but August, September, and have always been conditioning and weights and skill work, [00:32:00] that’s it.

 we don’t do any, any really, any team stuff we may put in transition on offense. Cause we get conditioning out of that too. But as far as you know, what, what it looks like for them is they’re going to get three days of weights and then they’re going to get conditioning and individual skill work.  once we get into October, as as a basketball coach, when the calendar turns October, it just seems like it’s time.

And so,  we spend our, the whole month of October installing, putting in our offensive stuff, talking defense.  but we still,  allow lots of times we have what we call post perimeter split. Where a couple of our staff will take the guards on one end, a couple of our staff will take the post, the four and five men on the other end.

And we’ll do post perimeter split where we’re getting individual skill stuff and smaller groups. And we do that every day.  you know, and whatever specifically we want to try to [00:33:00] get out of that time.  we always put that in the practice plan. And so I would say once we get into October, November,  when we’re playing games, especially in November,  we spend, we spend a lot of time on, on skill work and film study as well.

We cut the weights back to maybe two days a week just to maintain.  and then throughout our season, November, December, January, February, we’re, we’re pretty much on a routine as far as you know, Monday, we’re getting ready for Tuesday.  Tuesday nights, a game Wednesday, we come in and we stretch out our bodies and, and lift and, and,  watch some film and, and shoot a lot.

And then Thursday we’re prepping for Friday’s game.  we don’t come in on Saturdays at all.  we, we come in on Sunday afternoons late, and all we do on Sunday afternoons is, is watch film, lift weights, and shoot.  and so that’s kind of our plan. Once we get [00:34:00] into the season,

Mike Klinzing: [00:34:01] Does the time that each practice lasts go down, as the season goes along?

Brad Stamps: [00:34:08] Yes. Yes, it does. And I just believe and I know they’re the coaches they differ and they want to stay longer and do some things. And, and I get that. I’m not saying one way is right or wrong, but I just feel like,  in order to stay fresh, cause it’s such a long season in order to stay fresh in January and February and peak at the right time, your kids have gotta be.

 their bodies, their mind,  have all got to be right. So we, we try to get in and get out and whatever that looks like,  you know, we kept practice back quite a bit and we want to make sure that while we’re there and what we’re doing is meaningful work.  we’re we’re getting what we need to get done.

And, and I don’t see the use of. Just keeping them there to keep going. Whenever things are going the way we need them to. Right.

Mike Klinzing: [00:34:57] This is a two part question related to that [00:35:00] answer. First question. First part of the question is specific to that piece of it in terms of the time of practice, has your philosophy on that changed from when your career first started?

So in other words, back when you first started, were you more of the mindset of, we need to have longer practices all throughout the season. And then the second part of that question is what are some things that you do differently? And this time around as a head coach, then maybe you did in your first stint as a head coach, if there’s anything.

Brad Stamps: [00:35:31] Yeah. The first one, as far as, yes, I think when we’re all green and, and getting into the business, we feel like, and I’ll just tell you, I wasn’t, when I first started, even though I was coaching with my mentor, Coach Adams, my first job,  I wasn’t highly involved in the practice planning part of it.

 but what I was involved with was staying after and, and maybe shooting or doing some stuff with kids. And so you felt like you were there [00:36:00] forever. I mean, you really did.  but it was something that you just felt like that’s what you do when a kid wants in a gym or a kid wants extra shots, you’re going to be there for them.

 and so, yeah, I would say we probably stayed longer 15, 20 years ago, but,   you know, now I just, I think,  it’s just you, sometimes you feel like, are we doing the same things over and over? So you try to be creative, you try to be new, you try to bring something fresh and you try to keep your players fresh.

I think it’s a big deal.  and then the second part of the question  I don’t know. I, I think that,  you know, the first as being a head coach for. For those 10 years for Shiloh six at Springdale high.  I think every year you try to evolve and, and like I told you earlier, when you don’t, you feel like you don’t have all the answers.

[00:37:00] I heard Kevin Eastman say this the other day, and I agree with it. And it may be a Don Meyer quote, but,  we’re be alone at all, not a know it all. And I think that’s such a big deal that we’re constantly trying to evolve and, and trying to figure out new ways of doing things to where. You know it, to be honest with you when you get older and coaching, you, you want new things, you want fresh things.

You want to be able to teach new things. And, and,  so I think it’s, it’s the constant learning cycle for me.

Mike Klinzing: [00:37:33] All right. So that’s a great way to ask the following question, which is how do you as. A head coach, someone who obviously has a lot of experiences has been successful both as a head coach and has been an assistant in several different programs.

How do you go about learning those new things? How do you go about finding things that you want to add to your arsenal of what you do as a head coach? Where do you go? What are your sources? [00:38:00] Who are the people that you go to to be able to help you to grow as a coach?

Brad Stamps: [00:38:03] Yeah. Before I get into talking about just some personal things that I’ve done during this coronavirus In the past, there’s always people that you can reach out to, whether they’re they’re guys that have been in the business for years that are retired now.

And I’ve got a collection of those people that, that are resources for me.  you know, I talk about Coach Adams, but there’s others,  in our region that, that mean a lot to me personally, because they were coaching when I played and then they were coaching against me when I first got into coaching.  You always have a resource,  group of people that you can, you can go to, but you know, there’s, there’s so many resources out there now.  you know, whether it’s online or, or whatever it is, where you can, you can always find something [00:39:00] that maybe you haven’t been doing that maybe somebody does it maybe a different way or even a better way.

 and so there’s, it’s always a challenge to try to find something new, to bring to the table.

Mike Klinzing: [00:39:14] So you mentioned what you’ve been able to do during this time, where we’re all obviously away from the basketball floor and in many places, we’re just starting to bring players back for individual workouts, but we’ve had two months of time to just sit and be able to reflect and think.

So tell our audience about what you’ve been able to create that has helped you with your own personal growth and how you’ve been able to spread that message to other people who are looking for that same opportunity to grow as both a human being and as a coach.

Brad Stamps: [00:39:51] Yeah. My always like talking about these types of things, because I think growth is such a big deal and not getting stagnant.

And so [00:40:00] as any coach would do,  our season ended Mike in the semifinals on Saturday. And then five days later, or four days later or, or at home,  you know, we’re shut down,  we’re quarantined and this coronavirus hits. And, and so the reflection,  as we normally have was a little different,  because you weren’t.

You know, in the same routine and things going on. And so the slow down for me and, and being shut down,  just gave me a lot of time, really to reflect on year one.  the van back at my Alma mater and you know, what were the high points? What were the low points?  and that reflection piece, whether it was a big wins, the tough losses dealing with discipline issues, the day to day structure, where we doing things we needed to be done was the communication with my admin or our players or parents was, was it solid?

And as I got into that and started [00:41:00] writing everything I could think of in those areas, Mike, it, it turned into more than that. It turned into.  you know, how I wanted to become better,  in all areas of my life. And so as I started writing and really digging down deep into this reflection,  you know, I came up with four different areas and for personal growth and that’s all it was, was just my own personal growth plan.

And I wanted to get better mentally. I wanted to get better physically. I wanted to get better professionally and I wanted to get better spiritually. And so I kind of put a plan together.  for that. And it was all intended for myself to grow.  and as I started really seeing things and really being intentional about a daily script of touching something in all four of those areas,  put a presentation together and shared it with my staff.

And I use it as a challenge,  to we can do a lot of [00:42:00] things right now while we’re in. Quarantine time, but if we’re not spending time getting better for our players and, and,  professionally, but more than anything else, personally, if we’re not growing, we’re not going to be at our best. We come out of this.

And so I put a presentation together called reflect and reset, and I’ve had the opportunity, like, which has been pretty special to, to share with other high school staff.  across the state,  and even the region. And then I’ve had an opportunity to share with a couple of college staffs and, and I’m really proud of it.

Not because that was my intention to begin with. Like I told you before, it was all intended for my own personal growth, but what I’ve seen after sharing it with different people is,  the thing sometimes we take for granted.  you know, we all want to win 30 games a year and win a state championship, but the things that that mean the most,  for your everyday life and your everyday growth,  sometimes I think we neglect or we don’t spend enough time on.

[00:43:00]  and maybe we’re strong in one area, then we’re waking another. And so being intentional about putting a a daily script together of, I want to get better mentally today, what do I have to do? Does that mean I have to read,  you know, which I’ve spent a lot of time reading a book every two weeks.

 blogs,  really digging down deep into some things. And then my morning walks, am I making sure that I’m getting exercise? Am I, and then the biggest thing, Mike, that I’ve seen, that’s been more powerful than anything else in the writing portion of it. As far as the mental breakdown is, is writing letters.

 you know, to former players, guys that played for me years ago, or just people that are influential in my life and, and being able to journal and highlight some things. And, and Mike, when you get something in the mail that you don’t expect to get, and it’s from somebody and you can encourage, or you can lift somebody else up and it’s something they didn’t [00:44:00] expect.

And you took the time to hand write a letter, And as somebody, I think there’s so much power in that, and that can be such an encouragement to somebody. And so I just feel like this, this partial growth has just taken off and it’s, it’s really been a big deal for me.

Mike Klinzing: [00:44:15] So two things,  I want to share.

Just a personal story related to what you were talking about. And then I want to ask you a little bit about the process that you use to be able to help people with their personal growth. So my own personal story is during this time I had the good fortune of first being reconnected with. One of the assistant coaches from back when I played at Kent state back in from 88 to 92.

And hadn’t had a conversation with that assistant coach probably,  I may have talked to him once or twice after I graduated. In the, in the intervening year or two, he took over the head job after I left. And I’m sure I spoke to him at some point during that time, but hadn’t talked to him before then.

He came on the [00:45:00] podcast, got a chance to have an hour conversation with him outside of the podcast, and then had him on the podcast for like an hour and a half. It was just tremendous opportunity to be able to reconnect with him. Then he connected me to another assistant coach who was only with the program for a year.

Then moved on to the university of Michigan. And then he was the head coach at central Michigan. And now he’s back on the university of Michigan staff, but I got an opportunity to have a conversation with him, and then he’s going to be on the podcast. Soon. I only talked to him for probably 15 or 20 minutes, not as long as unfortunately, as I was able to talk to our other assistant.

And then that assistant coach connected me back to my head coach, who. Was a tremendous head coach for me as a player, but he was a very stern disciplinary and definitely an old school. Coach, especially at that time,  I don’t feel like in the moment that you had a tremendous personal [00:46:00] relationship, it didn’t feel like, and yet it was somebody that, again, I thought of him often, but just never.

Never had the number never picked up the phone. Never really did any investigating to go back and find them. And I think coaches now probably he’s gotta be in his mid eighties and call them up like two days ago and talk to him for an hour and a half. And the things that he remembered about me. And my family especially were stunning to me.

Like he asked me about my sister and he asked me if my dad was still doing this. And if, if he remembered a time where he saw my parents before a game at the university of Toledo and he introduced them to the former coaches, wife at Toledo, and just all these things that he remembered about. The opportunity to coach me.

And when we got done with the conversation, as we were hanging up the phone, he’s like, you really made my day. This was just tremendous. And I think about that and, it was fantastic [00:47:00] for me. I mean, it was very, it was just a unbelievable conversation for me to be able to have with all those guys and then specifically for someone who’s. You know, in his mid eighties,  he just recently lost his wife and to be able to reconnect with him and have that kind of genuine conversation.  it meant a lot to me because I think one of the things that I’ve said here on the show before is that I look back on my time playing college basketball and part of me wishes and thinks that those relationships, especially in the moment, I didn’t necessarily feel that type of personal connection with my coach has always.

And to be able to reconnect with them. And this point in my life was just, it was powerful. And I think what you’re talking about just by going back and reaching out to your former players and having those conversations, I can attest to the power of what that means to the people on both sides of that conversation.

So I couldn’t agree with you more there. And then my next question for you is when you start talking about sharing. What your [00:48:00] personal growth plan was when you’re sharing with another coach or with another person, are you sharing specific things that they should do? Or are you sharing more of questions or sort of a framework for.

What they can be thinking about. So in other words, do you tell them, Hey, you should take a 15 minute walk every day, or are you saying you should find 15 minutes in your day to reflect upon this? Which what’s the approach when you’re talking to other people?

Brad Stamps: [00:48:30] No, and that’s, that’s a great question. And so when I, when I really started to, when I put it together and wanted to share it with my, my staff before anybody else, it turned out to be more of a, maybe a, a challenge,  to my staff is here’s some growth areas,  for me personally, but I didn’t want to, and I, I made sure, and I still make sure that every time I present this.

 that people [00:49:00] understand that I’m not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. And that’s why I put this together because I needed to grow in these four areas. And,  so when I put it together that I made sure that, and so it, yeah, it was a challenge for my staff when I share it with other people it’s here is here’s four areas,  that.

All of us in some form or fashion deal with, and how can you grow in these areas? And maybe something that I give you, or maybe something that I show you that I’m doing personally, that has worked for me. Maybe you can get a pace or two out of it. And if you do then, then that’s success. And so the, I guess the, the feedback and the response from people that I’ve shared this with.

 you know, my coldest day is it just makes your heart feel good that you feel like you’ve put something together that somebody else has benefiting from, or maybe [00:50:00] it’s helping them. And that, that to me, that’s what it’s all about.

Mike Klinzing: [00:50:04] Absolutely. That’s a powerful thing. So let me ask you, let’s say that.

I come to you or I’m hearing your presentation. And I raise my hand and I say, Coach stamps. I want to know a little bit about what I can do to improve myself. Let me just pick one of the categories mentally. I want to improve mentally. What are some suggestions or things that you decided you were going to do during this time to improve yourself mentally?

Brad Stamps: [00:50:27] Yeah. And I’ve talked a little bit about it. You know, I try to read more and I’ve read more in the last two months than I ever read in any time when I was in a circle.  and then I highlight those and I’ve been riding. I’ve been looking for anything to read.  you know, when,  music’s a big deal to me and I always have music.

I’m pretty well rounded when it comes to music. And so I’m fortunate that I live on seven acres and so I walk a lot. And when I’m walking, I usually have music in I’m listening to podcast or list of music. I talked about the riding [00:51:00] part,  being able to journal I think is such a big deal.  but I think the biggest thing, my mentally.

 and I just shared this with,  coach neighbors and a couple of other people,  this last week was something new for me that I don’t think any of us do enough of this is meditation.  you know, when I call that me time, Mike, where it’s just, you, there’s nobody else around. There’s no interruptions, there’s no distractions.

There’s nothing going on, except for just you and your thoughts, whether it’s 15, 20 minutes, 25 minutes, whatever that is, I think that’s such a big part of your daily success.  and so I’ve spent more time in meditation than ever before.

Mike Klinzing: [00:51:44] So I have two questions related to meditation. I’ve read a lot of things about it.

I’ve done some laying in my bed at night before I fall asleep, which usually isn’t very long trying to,  try to think about it, but [00:52:00] I have not yet gotten myself to carve out the time to actually sit down in a space by myself and, and meditate. I just haven’t. Carve that out.

Brad Stamps: [00:52:13] And so, and like, I don’t think any of us do.

And I think that’s when I say growth, that’s something new for me. And I don’t, I don’t think any of us the people that I’ve talked to when I’ve shared that I don’t, I don’t think any of us spend enough time that we should in just meaningful thought something meaningful. I think it’s such a big deal.

Mike Klinzing: [00:52:34] What is your process look like? For doing that was when you, when you sit down and do it for the very first time, what are you thinking about? How are you setting it up? What does it look like for you right now? Because again, I think everybody has a different idea of what it looks like and how it might be beneficial to them.

Like I know I’ve done the Headspace app at times with. My wife and my [00:53:00] kids. We had a stretch where we were doing it a little bit and sit down. And of course that was during the school year, as my kids will tell you, I’m not I’m notorious for any time. My mind shuts down and I’m not actively doing something.

Chances are I’m asleep like two minutes later. So I would find myself and I would find myself meditating and everybody else would be done. And they’d be tapping me on the shoulder. Dad, dad, wake up. We’re all done. So just tell me a little bit about your process.

Brad Stamps: [00:53:26] Yeah. You know, I think it would be different for anybody, but I think finding a specific place in your home somewhere, you can go where you’re not going to be distracted for me.

It’s is pretty simple. My wife,  It’s blessed. She gets to work from home and she’s got an office set up upstairs and I’ve kind of taken over our, our basement area during this corn team time. And,  you know, and so I go down there and when I start my day with my quiet time or,  just some things that I’ve got as far as my daily script of [00:54:00] making sure I’m prioritizing things for the day.

 before I do any of that, I just spend quality time. And you know, sometimes it’s 10 minutes, sometimes it’s 20.  but just really getting in the spot,  down here downstairs with, with nothing else going on, no cell phones, nothing else, just me and my thoughts.

Mike Klinzing: [00:54:21] Okay. So here’s my next question. When we’re thinking about this now during the time where.

Our schedules have obviously relaxed and I’ve done the same thing that you have to a certain degree. And I’m sure most people have is just, it’s been. There’s been a time for us to reflect. Think about our schedule slows down. There’s just more time to stop and smell the roses for lack of a better way of saying it.

So when you start thinking about continuing the things that you’ve been able to do now, where your schedule is more. [00:55:00] Relaxed open. You’re not necessarily running from one thing to the next. How do you anticipate being able to continue all the different practices that you’ve now put into place? Once your schedule goes back to being more full, like it normally would be.

Brad Stamps: [00:55:18] No. And that is a challenge and I see that coming. I think it’s being intentional about,  when I talk about a daily script, Mike, it is, it is completely 100%. A priority list for me. And you know what? I tried to put things that matter the most for that specific day. And so I don’t envision myself losing that daily script,  you know, and being able to do everything I need to do in that day.

 that may mean I need to get up earlier in the morning to, to be able to accomplish the things that I want to do. And when I share with our staff that this, this personal growth plan that I put together, this isn’t a new year’s [00:56:00] resolution. It isn’t something that I’m just putting down because we have the time and I’m going to spend time for two weeks and then I’m done with it.

It’s, it’s a way of life that I want to.  really adapt to, and that I’ll really want to live up to now. I’m going to fail. I’m not perfect. I’m going to fail at it. There’s going to be days where I just don’t feel like maybe hitting the physical part of it or, or something.  but, but I just feel like being intentional about hitting those areas,  I don’t think are gonna change for me and I don’t envision them changing.

Cause right now it’s, it’s maybe a feel good time. I’ve never felt better.  in all aspects and just in a good place with all the credit and all the stuff that’s going on all over the country. And you can get, you can get locked into that stuff and, and that stuff can take you a different direction.

But I think being able to, to really stress what’s important, prioritizing things, put things in proper perspective, [00:57:00]  is such a big deal.

Mike Klinzing: [00:57:02] I agree with you a hundred percent. I think that this time for me, especially has been taking my day to day. I have a long commute every day to get to my school, taking that out of the mix and allowing me to spend more time at home with the family.

And then conversely also having more time. To be able to stop and think and reflect has been really powerful. When you talk about a daily script, I’m assuming that that’s something you’re writing out. Correct.

Brad Stamps: [00:57:35] Oh, yeah, for sure.  you know, when I told you earlier is prioritizing that, putting, doing the things that are going to make a difference,  you know, daily action steps and you focus on the priorities and then I try to implement something every day.

 you know, cause every day just provide you an opportunity, like to, to produce something.  we’re in the results [00:58:00] matter,  cause I do and then reflect on whatever those results you are,  reflect on those.  and maybe. And this is a big deal is seeking feedback.  when you put, when you put something into something you want to make sure it has value.

And so learn from experience requires feedback, and maybe reaching out to the people like you said earlier, that you respect.  but not only the people you respect, Mike, it’s also the people that are going to tell you the truth. And they’re going to share with you the truth and then being able to apply that look for opportunities to use those, that new knowledge or those new skills.

So as far as the daily script, that’s, that’s kind of where we’re at.

Mike Klinzing: [00:58:42] Do you, do you put that together the night before for the next day or you get up and write that first thing in the morning?

Brad Stamps: [00:58:50] A little of both. I’ve caught myself if it was a long day and things that are going on,  you know, I may shut it down.

 and [00:59:00] then you get up first thing in the morning and in sport that,  but the writing part, I’m writing everything. I mean, I’ve got. Yeah, Allie. It’s, I’m like a mad scientist stand here. I’ve got papers everywhere and just everything. I see everything I read, I’m just writing it down. And,  and then learning how to organize those is a big deal for me as well, as far as growth.

 but, but Mike, I’ll tell you the growth part and you can talk about all those areas, mental physically, professionally, spiritually.  you know, because I needed to get better in all those, but,  I think the biggest thing right now for me and maybe for others,  because people reached out to me when I shared with removing clutter, whatever that clutter is, remove it from your life and move it from you.

Some of it may be resentment,  towards something that has control over your, maybe it’s, it’s just being able to forgive somebody and being [01:00:00] intentional about making things right with them. I had the opportunity to do that  A couple of months ago and just, just what that does as far as just releasing that,  and releasing that control because it, it can really have control over you if you’re carrying those things around.

So removing that clutter is growth.  eliminate those things that distract you from being your best.

Mike Klinzing: [01:00:22] Yeah. There’s no doubt about that. I’m going to recommend a book to you. I don’t know if you’ve ever read this book or not, but for anybody who’s out there listening, if you haven’t read it and you, what Brad and I are talking about tonight, resonates with you.

The book’s called Willpower Doesn’t Work. By Benjamin Hardy. Have you ever read that book Brad?

Brad Stamps: [01:00:38] I have not, but I’m writing it down as you’re talking.

Mike Klinzing: [01:00:40] You would love it. It talks about, he’s telling me that one more time. Willpower, willpower doesn’t work and it’s by Benjamin Hardy and it is a tremendous book.

It goes into a lot of the things that you’re talking about in terms of journaling, in terms of decluttering, in terms of prioritizing and it’s. Very simply [01:01:00] written. It’s a quick read. I’ve read it. I think three times now, since I got the book, I’ve tried to read it every six months, just because I think it’s that powerful of a message that I know you’ve used the word a bunch of times tonight and I’ve used it a lot in the past, and that is the word intentional.

And what I find for me is that I have to be. Intentional about doing all the things that you’ve described, because I find it very, very easy to fall off the wagon and get caught up in the day to day tasks that I feel like I need to get done rather than prioritizing what’s really, and truly important.

And that book does a great job of helping kind of, to recenter me and remind me of what are the things that I need to be doing day to day to truly be at my best and to be at my most productive. And it sounds like what you’ve been able to put together. Does the same thing for you? And I think the key to any of this, for anyone who’s out there [01:02:00] listening coach or otherwise, is to think about all the things that you and I have been discussing tonight, and then find a system that works for you.

And it could be the system Brad, that you’ve created. It could be a system that somebody has read about in a book. It could be a system that they’ve created for themselves, but I think what’s really important is you take that. You take that framework that you’ve gotten from somebody else or that you’ve put in to put together for yourself, and then you fill it in with the things that have the most meaning for you and your life.

And it sounds like, to me, sounds like what’s been the most important thing for you has been the writing piece of it.  

Brad Stamps: [01:02:41] it has,  you know, being able to, to, because for me, when I see it, and then I write it down, it really sticks.  you know, and so I’m ready to put all those into whether it’s a three ring binder called Corolla or summer or whatever [01:03:00] it is, because there’s a lot of stuff that I’ve written down that that may not mean a whole lot to me.

Five years from now, but there’s a lot of meaningful stuff in there too, that I want to keep. And so, yeah, that’s a big deal. And you know, it’s also Mike, I share with our staff when I got through with it was growth is also being able to count your blessings. I mean, we, most of us are relatively healthy.

We have awesome families, but I think the biggest thing Mike is. We’ve got jobs and I’m talking about coaches, we’ve got jobs that not only we’re getting a paycheck right now, and many in the country are not, and many people were struggling. We got a job that gets us, gives us a paycheck, but it also allows us to lead and inspire young people.

So, I mean, what kind of blessing is that? You know what I mean, being able to really dive into. How blessed we are to get to do what we’re doing.

Mike Klinzing: [01:03:55]I don’t think there’s any doubt that having that gratitude every single day. And [01:04:00] I’ve had many conversations during this time of the quarantine with people. And I’ve said that just like you, I feel like this time has been extremely valuable to me as a human being.

And I know that it’s going to continue to have an impact on me long after this time is done, just because some of the things that I’ve done during this time to grow and improve and think and figure out what it is, that’s important to me and what I want to do and where I want to move forward. So there’s no doubt that that’s going to stick with me.

And yet when I talk to people, I always preface it with what you just said, which is I understand that I am incredibly, incredibly fortunate to be in a job where I’m not going to work. Every day. And yet every two weeks a paycheck is still finding its way into my mailbox. And believe me, when I say I don’t take that for granted.

And certainly if I was. An hourly worker whose job had been shut down and suddenly he wasn’t getting paid or was on unemployment. My [01:05:00] outlook on this time probably would be a lot different. I’d probably find it much more difficult to do the things that you and I have been talking about tonight. And yet I think that whether your life is in a great place or whether your life is in a spot where it’s a challenge, I think by taking on some of the self improvement stuff that we’ve talked about tonight, Anybody’s life can be improved if you go about it and you have the right positive spirit, despite what your situation may be.

And that’s again, taking into account. The fact that I know as you described that we are incredibly lucky to be doing what we do and be in the situation that we’re in.

Brad Stamps: [01:05:39] No, I think so, Mike and that’s well said, and I think we all have the ability to be a light to somebody else and whatever your platform is especially in today’s world is,  cause we’ve spent a lot of time with our players.

The last couple of days of just talking about things that are going on in our country.  you know, and [01:06:00] so,  that’s a blessing in itself as well as being able to have those relationships one, but having your pliers and understand that you’re not just, you’re not just concerned about getting them ready to play basketball games.

You’re trying to prepare them for life and, and having an open. A relationship where you can listen. And I think listening is such a valuable tool to be able to just sit and listen, because everybody’s got a story and everybody’s story is valuable.  and so,  I think that’s, that’s something right now that we can all be.

Mike Klinzing: [01:06:34] Yeah. I agree with you a hundred percent there. I think that a lot of times, especially in our country, in today’s society with social media, And whatever. We spend a lot of time talking, sharing, putting things out there, but we don’t always spend a lot of time listening to all sides of an issue, a debate.

And clearly I think when you talk about a coach player [01:07:00] relationship, it’s so important for a coach to be able to have difficult conversations with players about things that are going on in the world, because that’s the real world we can all live in our. Basketball world. And within our basketball team, we all know how important that is to us and how caught up we get in it when the season’s on and we’re in the middle of a game and all those things.

And yet you’ve said it a couple of times tonight that ultimately what it comes down to is 20 years from now. Are you going to be able to pick up the phone and have a conversation with one of your players? Who’s had a successful life and raised a family and done good things in the community. And that’s really where you find out about yourself as a coach and what kind of impact you’ve had.

You don’t necessarily find that out in the minutes during the season, you find it out much later when those players stay connected to you and you’re able to develop those relationships. And I think that’s so, so important. And now I want to ask you. About how you went from [01:08:00] creating this for yourself. And obviously you had in mind, as you started putting it together, that you wanted to share it with your staff.

So how do you go from, I’m doing it for me to, I’m going to share this with my staff to now I’m going to get an opportunity to share it with. People outside of my immediate circle. How did that come to pass?

Brad Stamps: [01:08:20] Yeah. Well and that’s, that’s another area of growth, the professional component, as far as networking with people.

 you know, during this time, whether it’s zooms,  which I’ve done several of those,  you’re not in get into any of that with you, but I’ve, I’ve done some special zones that,  I’m extremely proud of. I did one for Coach Sutton.  Eddie Sutton was a big fixture for me and his family is very close with me and I got an opportunity to pull in the triplets as far as.

A former players of his and coach shut-in was actually setting in the room and his recliner [01:09:00] a couple of months before he passed right after the hall of fame.  and so,  networking with individuals,  started that way.  you know, I, I had the college of Charleston coach Earl grant. Who’s an awesome man and an awesome coach.

And I want to zoom with my staff doing a professional development.  we talked basketball, we talked life and then. During that conversation, Mike, he shared with me. I’m in the middle of it that I just want you guys to know that I just got through challenging my staff here in professional and personal growth plan.

And he started talking about the areas and I could feel every, I must staff on that soon looking at me and all of a sudden my phone’s going off and they’re texting me saying, coach, did you talk to them just exactly what you just shared with us? And so when it was over with and I don’t think that’s coincidence, Mike, I don’t.

And so when it was over with, I called coach grant and said when you were talking about that goat, my staff [01:10:00] was blowing me up because I just got through Sharon. He said, well, tell me what you got. And so I shared that with him. And when he told me, when I shared the presentation, when I shared it with him, he told me, he said, coach.

He said, every coach in the country is trying to get. You know, X’s and O’s are trying to gain an advantage or are doing all these things he said, but what you just shared with me every day. Staff in America needs to hear in some capacity. He said, because that’s the true gist of, of who we are and what we need to be,  to be at our best.

And so when he shared that with me, it just gave me great confidence that it wasn’t just,  it’s not a. Well, like I told you before, it’s not a perfect deal. It’s not, I’m not perfect. I’m not anywhere close. I’m weak in so many areas, but I think I’m really doing a self assessment or being transparent with yourself and honest assessment.

Of looking at areas where you need to grow and then making sure you’re being [01:11:00] intentional about growing. It led to him sharing the message with other coaches.  I’m on a Thursday zoom with several college coaches as well as, so a high school friends that, that coach Greg white.  you know, my former assistant and head coach Manville West that really well put together and with coach neighbors.

And so I’ve, I’ve got to share with them. And then our high school coaches in the state have a group on Mondays and got the chair with, with those guys as well. And, and want to tell you your feedback has been tremendous it’s, that’s what it’s all about.

Mike Klinzing: [01:11:37] Sounds like you’re going to be a corporate speaker  Brad.

Brad Stamps: [01:11:41] I don’t want to do that at all. Like I told you before Mike and I truly, I mean this with every, every inch of my being is this wasn’t intended for anybody else, but myself and it’s just and, and, and I’ll, I’ll get into this a little bit, [01:12:00] you know, I’m a man of faith. And so when I started digging into the spiritual side of, of mop, Personal growth,  you know, and draw near to God and those type of things.

It just,  all these things start taking place. And I don’t think that’s coincidence,  adult. And,  so it’s, that’s, that’s been a big component for me, the things that I’ve seen because of that.

Mike Klinzing: [01:12:24] It is amazing that sometimes things just seem to happen for a reason. And you start out with one direction and thinking that you’re going to be doing this, and then suddenly you get connected to this person and that person.

And then before you know it, you have an opportunity to do something that you never really imagined. And I think from Jason and I’s perspective, The podcast has certainly been like that. And we’ve kind of talked about the Genesis of the show before, but we started out this podcast was going to be a show about [01:13:00] youth sports parenting and talking about different issues that.

Youth sports parents face and just how to navigate maybe the youth basketball system. And then through our good fortune, we got connected to Alan Stein. We got connected to Greg white, who you mentioned just a second ago, who’s become a good friend. And the both of those guys were kind enough to open their network to us.

And then once you have their networks opened and then you get connected to the people within their network and they feel like you’re. On the up and up with them that you’re doing a good job and you’re trying to grow the game and do things to help people. And before it, you’re just connected to a list of people that I could have never imagined when we started this thing a little over two years ago, that we’d be sitting here having done 300 and whatever 20 episodes or whatever, it’ll be that we’re recording with you tonight.

It’s just amazing. And I think as you said, those things, those things happen for a reason. They don’t happen by. Accident. And for whatever [01:14:00] reason that we’ve been put in this position to be able to share and help grow the game and give people like yourself who are doing great things, not only for the game of basketball, but just for people in general, to give them a platform, to be able to share the things that they want to share to help make everybody better.

And to me, that’s really, that’s what it’s been all about. It sounds like that’s sort of the same mission that you’re on as well.

Brad Stamps: [01:14:25] Yeah, for sure. Mike, as you mentioned, grow the game and you mentioned Greg White and he’s one of those guys that he never sleeps and you know, he’s always up to something.

And so,  you know, he’s, he’s challenged me in some areas as far as growing the game.  and so he’s opened up some doors for me. As far as that goes. And I can’t thank him enough for that. And because it’s people that I never envisioned,  maybe being able to [01:15:00] reach out to, and talk to, and communicate with and learn from, and if we’re not growing the game what are we doing?

And so it’s, it’s a game that,  you know, besides the fact that it’s the greatest game ever invented,  it’s also a game that’s given all of us.  so many memories has given us so many opportunities, relationships, special relationships that are deep rooted, and then it’s given us competition.  but it’s given us so much.

And so why wouldn’t we want to give back as much as it’s given us?

Mike Klinzing: [01:15:35] Absolutely. There’s no doubt about that. Brad, we’re coming up on, I don’t know, an hour and 15 hour and 20 minutes. Want to give you a chance to let people know where they can reach out to you. If they’re interested in finding out more about your personal growth plan. Are there ones that are interested in finding out more about what you’re doing at Fayetteville? And then if there’s any final point that we didn’t get a chance to talk about, you can go ahead and do that. And then I’ll jump back in and [01:16:00] wrap up the episode.

Brad Stamps: [01:16:02] Yeah, for sure.

Mike, and once again, I do appreciate you. You allow me to come on today. It’s always fun talking with you. You do a tremendous job and I applaud you for what you’re doing to help promote the game as well. But there’s a couple of ways to get in touch with me.  one you can follow me personally, on, on social media, on Twitter @bstamps22.

And then our Fayetteville basketball account is @ Fay, F A Y, and then Bulldogs basketball. That’s @FayBulldogsBasketball is our basketball Twitter account that my assistants they run that. And then my email is,  And I would love [01:17:00] opportunity.

You know, if anybody’s interested to this listening would love to share the presentation with them.

Mike Klinzing: [01:17:09] Absolutely. Brad, we cannot thank you enough for spending some time taking the time out of your schedule to come out with us again for a second time, I thought this conversation was fascinating from my end of it.

These are things that are near and dear to my heart that I love talking about. And I know that coaches out there there’s a ton of things that they could take away. Both from your experience, going from an assistant to the head coach at your Alma mater, following in the footsteps of your mentor and a guy who was a legend in the community, and then.

Going beyond that and creating the personal growth plan and sharing some aspects of that and how it’s impacted you and how it can hopefully impact other coaches out there. It’s just been a tremendous conversation with a ton of value. So we can’t thank you enough. And to everyone out there, thanks for checking us out and we will catch you on our next episode.


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