TYLER COSTON FROM PGC BASKETBALL: 20 WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE YOUTH BASKETBALL – EPISODE 467

Tyler Coston

Website – https://pgcbasketball.com/

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Twitter – @tylercoston

Tyler Coston is the Director of  Player Development for PGC Basketball.  Tyler coached women’s basketball team at Trinity Western University from 2005-2007, while simultaneously running a skills-development program that produced five Division I (USA) athletes. In 2007, he accepted a position as Assistant Coach at Portland State University. During his first year at Portland State, the Vikings won the Big Sky Conference with an overall record of 23-8. After Portland State captured the Big Sky Conference tournament, they went on to the NCAA Tournament where they lost to the eventual 2008 champions, the Kansas Jayhawks.

Tyler, a Master Director with PGC Basketball, first attended Point Guard College in 1998 and under the leaderhsip of Dick DeVenzio. In the following year, Tyler led Lynden Christian High School to the Washington State Championship and earned first-team All-State honors. He went on to play university basketball at Trinity Western University, where he was named to the Canada West All-Rookie team. He transferred to the University of Alberta and led the Golden Bears to Canada West Gold, earning a spot in the national tournament in 2004.

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What We Discuss with Tyler Coston

  1. Bring our A-Game
    Youth basketball deserves our best. The best coaching, most resources & highest standards.
  2. Question everything
    Youth Basketball is broken, start over.   
  3. Establish first principles (part 1) Development over everything.   
  4. Establish first principles (part 2) Parents would choose programs for development, not clout. 
  5. Bamboo mindset  Bamboo will grow for three years underground before it shoots up to be one of the fastest-growing plants. This MUST be the approach to youth basketball.   
  6. Visual Learning Studies show over 85% of youth are visual learners. Yet youth practices are auditory & tactile in nature.   
  7. Teach Parents. At the youth level, no person has a greater impact on a player’s love of the game & improvement than parents.  
  8. Discovery Method (part 1)  Youth structure should be about discovery & constraint. 
     
  9. Discovery Method (part 2) 
    Our youth system is not set up for that as we put players in positions, require performance & punish experimentation.
  10. Implement Immediately. Any teaching to youth players must provide space & time for them to implement right away.
  11. Play games More about practice and play. The majority of youth practice should be games.
  12. Play the right games Youth basketball should prioritize movement, ball touches, scoring, learning & FUN!
  13. Explore the Edges of the Sandbox Encourage the crazy.
  14. Intrinsic Motivation Most practices I’ve seen have a coach constantly yelling & telling players to move faster, care more, and do a thing. 
  15. Autonomy Players care more about what they choose.
  16. Give Advantage Basketball’s hard. It takes a long time to get good.
  17. No excuses Youth basketball is full of excuses, often modeled by adults.
  18. Level Up Competitiveness is a skill to grow.
  19. Challenge European premier league soccer clubs found resiliency a greater indicator of elite success than any technical skills. 
  20. Show the Love After the game, show the love. 

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TRANSCRIPT FOR TYLER COSTON FROM PGC BASKETBALL: 20 WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE YOUTH BASKETBALL – EPISODE 467

[00:00:00] Mike Klinzing: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the Hoop Heads Podcast is Mike Klinzing here without my co-host Jason Sunkle this afternoon, but I am pleased to be joined by Tyler Coston, Director of Player Development at PGC basketball. We’re going to talk some youth basketball today. Tyler, welcome to the Hoop Heads Pod.

Tyler Coston: [00:00:13] Yeah, I’m pleasure to be here. I’m glad that I’m glad that this is important to you as it is.

Mike Klinzing: [00:00:17] To me, it is important just to kind of give people the background, got an email from PGC basketball, and Tyler had written an article about 20 ways that we can improve youth basketball. Anybody who has any spent any time as a member of our audience, you’re on the Hoop Heads Pod knows that it is a subject that. I care deeply about trying to improve the youth basketball system here in the United States. How can we make it better? And Tyler’s article gave us 20 ways that we could do that. And so we’re going to go through each of those one at a time and just talk about some different things that we can do to make youth basketball here in the United States, a better place for everybody.

So let’s begin the way we decided we’re going to do this is I’m going to read off. Each of the 20 ways that Tyler put in his article, and then he’s going to [00:01:00] respond and fill in some details. So we’re gonna start with number one, bring your a game. Youth basketball deserves our best, the best coaching, the most resources, the highest standards.

Yet we give it the least, the least experienced coaches, no funding, few standards, time to stop being lackluster and give it the carrot deserves kids first. All right. Fill in the details.

Tyler Coston: [00:01:17] Yeah. You know, I think it really just comes down to care and investment a lot of times because the product.

Isn’t as appealing to watch a youth basketball game versus say a higher level college game or a pro game. I think we give it, give it less care and less investment. And I think we just have a backwards because. More people play more human beings, play basketball youth level than at the higher levels.

I mean, we tell high school players all the time that they’ve got a 5% jazz, a plan in college. And so I just really care about the game and not selfishly for what I like watching the most, but because I want to grow the game and grow the love of the game, I think. [00:02:00] Most coaches, most basketball people, most basketball parents would agree with that in theory.

So we just got to put our money where our mouth is and invest in impact. You know, the coaching at the youth level is hard. It’s easy to point out the flaws. In a player’s game or in, in a basketball game, but it’s harder to find a way to fix it. And that’s why it requires better coaching.

Mike Klinzing: [00:02:26] So how do we do that?

A couple of things I know that have been considered are one USA. Basketball is trying to. Put together a, their licensure program for youth coaches. And it’s something that if you go and you participate in that and you become a licensed coach, you’re going to get a lot of great information that can certainly help you.

That’s one of the things, and I think the other counter-argument to what you said, and you hear from program directors is, Hey, a lot of our coaches are volunteers. If we start requiring them to take coursework or get certified. We’re going to scare them away and they’re going to not [00:03:00] want to be a part of it because already we’re asking them to volunteer and now we’re going to force them to take a class.

So how do we combat that in terms of coach education? What’s your thought on how we get that

Tyler Coston: [00:03:11] going? Yeah. You know, always add more value than you take in payment. If, if what you’re taking in payment is a purchase time, then you’ve got to add more in value in some way. And I think that at the end of the day is going to be on the program.

It’s going to be. On the, the rec league. It’s going to be on the organization that has these coaches to make it so unbelievably positive, encouraging edifying. It’s gonna, they’re gonna make it easy for them to grow and not to send them a link to a YouTube video that feels like an assignment. But actually add value to them that might make them a better leader in their vocation and profession will give them a community that encourages them and supports them that will help them achieve their long-term goals in coaching whatever it is.

I think that that’s [00:04:00] what is required. That would be our best. That would be our a game. As opposed to just being like, gosh, we gotta get a coach for a little Timmy’s team. We’ll roll anybody out there. I think it’s just more of an approach and the, the methods will, will vary if we make that commitment.

If each individual program director makes that commitment. Right.

Mike Klinzing: [00:04:16] And I do think that not only then would we be improving youth basketball for the kids, but we’re also going to be improving it for. The coaches. And if the experience is better for coaches, then you’re going to have them stick around and you’re going to get, make it easier for more people to want to be a part of it.

I know you’ve probably heard, and I’ve heard from talking to coaches, they get frustrated because they’re not sure what to do, or they can’t get the kids to do this. Or I’m not really sure what I’m doing. And if you gave them a foundation that enabled them to become better coaches themselves, one, they would enjoy it more.

And two they’d be able to pass that joy onto the kids that they’re coaching.

Tyler Coston: [00:04:52] Absolutely. All right,

Mike Klinzing: [00:04:54] number two. We’re going to skip this one. I’m going to read it, but we’re going to leave it for the end because I think it lends itself [00:05:00] to a question that will nicely summarize everything that we’re going to talk about for the remainder of the podcast.

So number two says question everything youth basketball is broken. Start over. Players are leaving the sport. Parents are fighting in the stands and kids are losing self-esteem instead of gaining confidence. So we’re going to leave that one. For the end and move on to number three, which is established first principles development over everything North America, has it backwards, winning a game, making a team or getting more playing time, dictates decisions play the long game practices would be better if we didn’t care about a fourth grade.

Tyler Coston: [00:05:33] Hmm, man, that’s good. I like whoever wrote well, it’s,

Mike Klinzing: [00:05:37] well-written well-written

Tyler Coston: [00:05:39] I agree with them I think that. I was, I was consulting for a high school program in California, this the season before last, before, before COVID and coach Justin got his first varsity job and it was taken over a really bad program.

He’s like, Tyler, what do I do? Like our team’s really bad. I want to keep this [00:06:00] job. You know, how do I, how do I frame it, knowing that we’re not going to win very many games, right. And w what I suggested to him from the jump was to redefine success. Every practice, every game set a success standard that was achievable for them that was different than whether or not they’d win or lose the game.

You know, maybe it was a, maybe it was a communication goal, or maybe it was an effort goal, or maybe it was a, a defensive efficiency goal, but like set something that was more in their control and knowing that they didn’t necessarily have the talent. He ran with that. And he, he was expecting to win one or two games the entire season.

But without focusing at all on the winning games, just focusing on development, over everything, he ended up winning 20 games that season shocking. He himself and everybody else. And so he is now a development over everything, a believer because a lot of times, if you actually change the focus to growth, to just development you’re going to get the success.

But [00:07:00] too often, if we focus just on the success, we make short term decisions for a short-term win. And a lot of times short-term wins come the expense of long-term growth and development.

Mike Klinzing: [00:07:11] What does development. Over winning look like in a practice setting. Can you give us one or two concrete examples of things that Hey, if I’m a coach and take whatever level you want, you can talk about high school.

You can talk about grade school. What does development over winning look like in a

Tyler Coston: [00:07:26] practice setting? Okay. Here’s one for youth players specifically, or a youth team, and I’m going youth teams in anywhere for like fourth through seventh grade. That’s kind of a general youth definition for me, 50% of your practice should be shooting that’s development over everything.

Shooting is the hardest skill to come by and. The greatest indicator of how long a players are going to play basketball, especially if they’re not blessed with unbelievable physical and genetic gifts. And so spending 50% of one’s practice time on developing this most important skill [00:08:00] would be investing in individual players.

Long-term development, love of the game. There’s really not much else. Players love about the game of basketball, more than seeing the ball go through the hoop. And so that would be fun for them if they just got better at shooting. Now, is that going to necessarily help you defend and transition and win a tournament?

The coming weekend? Probably not. Probably not. And so that’s why it’s really hard for coaches not to throw in their offensive defensive sets or a baseline inbounds play or a press break or whatever, because you’re probably going to give up some victories. But that would be a concrete example of what development over everything

Mike Klinzing: [00:08:33] would look like.

Okay. Now that. Dovetails very nicely into number four, establish first principles. Parents would choose programs for development and the cloud parents would embrace failure instead of shying away from areas of weakness. Don’t sacrifice, long-term love of the game for a w. So I think that number three to me always goes hand in hand with number four, because if I’m going to do number three, that means I have to be [00:09:00] able to have.

Parents that are educated about what I’m doing, why I’m doing it, how it’s beneficial for their kid, because when they walk into a gym with 10 games going on and they look at the scoreboard, that’s ultimately what a lot of people end up judging the successful failure of a coach or their kid or the program that they’re going to be a part of.

So how do we educate parents to choose programs for development?

Tyler Coston: [00:09:26] Yeah. And we will talk about parents a little bit, even more in depth. I think in a little, a little bit, a few more points down the road here, but I think that the key is understanding that you don’t, you don’t choose a program because of their record or how many championships they’ve won, but rather can they serve your kid right.

Can they serve your kid long-term and help them become a great player and a greater person. And I think that how do we educate parents? Well, there’s some you, you can educate and some you [00:10:00] can’t. I think, I think that really, it’s just being very clear about what you’re doing. So, one thing that I did is for 10 years, I ran my own club.

And we got to a place where we had 30 teams and over 300 players in our club and we grew from a single team and. I attempted to the very best of my ability to live this out. And we saw significant growth and we didn’t always have the best teams or the best records, but we consistently put players in college.

And we put players in college because of the long-term development approach. Yeah. I think that if parents really did PRI and I think many parents do the data prioritize their, their, their kids’ growth and success, they just. Incorrectly associate that with winning games. And I think that it’s, it’s, it wouldn’t be that hard to provide a value proposition as a club program that we’re going to, we’re going to invest in your kid more than we’re going to invest in winning games.

And I think that’s when the parents would just [00:11:00] intrinsically buy into if it was communicated directly. I just don’t hear that very often. And I don’t see it very

Mike Klinzing: [00:11:04] often. Yeah, I don’t either. And I do think that if you had some clear messaging that it would be easier to do that, it goes back to what you talked about earlier a little bit where we’re trying to.

You have to do it almost club by club, individual by individual, where we start to make that the priority, as opposed to trying to do it. This all, all encompassing over the whole entire youth basketball system. The United States really challenging because we know there are a lot of different factors and factions that are involved in that.

But if you do it one group at a time, your message gets to and has an impact on one. Club director or two parents or five players or whatever it is. And those people start to embrace some of these things. And then that’s how we can start to slowly make change. That goes along to number five, bamboo mindset bamboo will grow for three years underground before it shoots up to be one of the fastest growing plants.

This must be the approach to youth basketball, parents, players, and coaches must align and commit to the [00:12:00] years long process.

Tyler Coston: [00:12:02] And I think another thing. Is what you’re doing with this podcast. And a lot of other good people in basketball like yourself eventually it will hit a critical mass as more and more people get fed up with parents coming out of the stands and punching referees and kicking the referee.

I think you saw that we saw that’s

Mike Klinzing: [00:12:23] crazy.

Tyler Coston: [00:12:24] Oh my goodness. Right. But, but I think like we’re seeing in society started to zoom out a little bit here. Like we’re seeing in society. We’re seeing extremism in society, whether you want to talk about politics or you want to talk about societal norms, like more and more people are going towards the edges.

And I actually think it’s very. Contrarian. It takes a lot of courage to be moderate in today’s society not, not to, not to be moderate politically, but just to be in the middle of the road and say like, no, that’s crazy over here. And that’s crazy over here. Let’s, let’s, let’s find a middle ground. [00:13:00]

And I really think that’s what even this the bamboo mindset is about. I mean, instant gratification is, is radicalism. It’s. It’s on one far side, they expect instantaneous results. And it’s, it’s also kind of radical. We’ll just be like, Oh, Hey, I haven’t seen any results for a year. I’m going to stick with it.

That’s kind of crazy as well. Right? Like you’re doing something wrong if you’re not getting better. But I think understanding that, especially like youth players, I was speaking to a division one coach yesterday, actually. And this coach was a, has been coaching for 30 years at all levels ended up at the division one level and he was he’s.

He was basically preaching the same thing. He said the greatest responsibility of a coach is to make sure that players don’t quit your sport. He’s he said like, if you’re coaching in high school and you know, you have a freshman that doesn’t believe you can help them get better. And doesn’t think they’re getting better.

They’re just going to quit. And you don’t know what that freshmen is going to become by the time that they’re a senior. And that’s [00:14:00] really kind of what this bamboo mindset is, is answering the question that every player is asking themselves, whether they know it or not, when you’re coaching them is like, like, can you help me get to where I want to go?

And if they believe that you can help them, if they see some growth, then eventually they’re going to, they’re going to explode at their appropriate time. And for a lot of players, it’s different. And so I think that’s what a commitment to the years long process is, is the commitment to making sure that a player sticks with the process.

And sticks with the game.

Mike Klinzing: [00:14:28] Absolutely. I love that. One of the things that I’ve kind of taken to heart with my camps is I’ll give a little speech to parents at the beginning of camp. And at the end, when we’re having our award ceremony and I’ve kind of latched on to a three-part mission with our camp, number one, we want you to have fun.

Number two, we want, we want you to learn something and number three, we want the experience that you have at our basketball camp to make you want to play more basketball. And so that’s kind of, you talked about trying to figure out how do you define success and that’s kind of [00:15:00] how we’ve come to define success with our basketball campuses.

Are you learning? Are you having fun? And when it’s over, do you want to play more? And I think there’s nothing especially at the youth level, when you think about my experiences, I’ve coached. I guess a little higher level a you travel basketball and then I’ve coached recreation, basketball too.

And one of the things that I always try to evaluate myself on is okay, when the season’s over and the next season rolls around. And how many of those kids that played for me in the previous year want to come back and play again? And yeah. Yeah. Everybody likes to win. I get it. But ultimately when you’re eight years old, you’re 10 years old.

You’re 12 years old. The winning part of it comes way, way down the list of reasons. Why. Kids play. And you want them to just keep coming back and playing more and more? I don’t know. We’ll talk about this a little bit when we get to developing the love of the game and all that, but I just think it was a good place to throw that in there that it can’t be about what’s happening right in the moment.

You have to make sure that it’s a, it’s a process that kids can develop over [00:16:00] time because. Ultimately, we all know if we’re bad, if you’re a basketball person that the people who end up being the best at the game are the people who love it and want to play it because it’s important to them. Not because it’s important to their mom or their dad or their coach or whoever, the kids who really get better and ended up being the best players.

They do it because. They love to do it. And that to me is really, what’s, what’s really important.

Tyler Coston: [00:16:20] You’re exactly right. You can be a quick anecdote about that. An NBA player who I won’t name who I got to see firsthand from high school or through pro does not like to play basketball anymore is like rarely around the game.

And when I asked him about it, He just basically said he’s like, it took so much to get to where I was and took so much sacrifice. He said that I just, I don’t love the game anymore where there’s a guy like myself who never played at the NBA level, played in college and a little, little semi-pro afterwards.

I’m 40 years old. I was in the gym this morning for an hour, cause I’m still a gym rat. You know what I mean? But like I [00:17:00] came to the sport late. I never felt pressure to perform. I fell in love with the game and you know, my love has kind of led me through the whole journey and that’s, that’s what I want for people.

Like my greatest memories. I won a state championship in high school. I played for a national championship in college. I got to taste professional overseas and the most joy. That I’ve ever had playing the game has been pickup basketball. Since I retired at the age of 23 for the past 17 years, I just still love playing pickup.

Like I want that for people a lifelong love affair with the game.

Mike Klinzing: [00:17:31] There’s no question. I tell people all the time that I played and had a really good high school career. I played division one basketball, and yet some of my most favorite memories are from when I was 15, 16, 17 years old.

On the playground playing with guys who are 27, 28, 29, and just having those kinds of experiences and that’s something we could get into that whole thing. The difference between today’s system versus playing pickup basketball. That’s a whole nother podcast so we can hear right. Let’s let’s let’s, let’s move to number six.

Otherwise we’re going to be here for seven hours. All right. Number, number six, visual learning [00:18:00] studies show over 85% of youth are visual learners. Yet youth practices are auditory and tactile in nature. Change. Every youth practice and development program must include visual learning. It’s more fun, more effective and provides access to experts.

So give us an idea of what you mean when you say coaches should be using visual learning.

Tyler Coston: [00:18:16] Bring a screen onto court. They’re very lightened flat these days or computer screen, and you shouldn’t go more than 20 minutes without bringing them over to the screen and showing it to them. Players look, my dad’s a professional golfer.

You know, he’s played in majors, played on the PGA tour. I did not grow up playing golf. I hated it, but I’m a four handicap now and I have a really good swing because I grew up listening to being around and watching only the best watching experts, just visually it just by osmosis. Right. And you have these young players that really don’t even watch basketball.

Don’t even know what they’re looking for. Four. And they’re listening to someone who’s not an expert coach. Just talk at them and verbally explain what they’re supposed to do, who [00:19:00] can’t even demonstrate it for them. I’m like we got to use all these, all these tools from YouTube to video teaching, to film and they should be looking at a screen and then going out and doing it and looking at a screen and going out and doing it because that’s how they do video games.

That’s how they watch YouTube. It’s how they learn. So why aren’t we using this? I

Mike Klinzing: [00:19:19] can honestly say that I have never. In my life, Ben at a youth practice where I have seen a screen being Everest. Yeah. I have maybe twice. In the time that I’ve coached youth basketball, pulled something up on my phone that I wanted to show to somebody, but I have not done this.

And I’ve certainly not seen anybody else do it. I think it’s a great point, especially when you talk about the difference between how kids, just what they’re interacting with on a daily basis today, compared to 10 years ago, their familiarity with watching things on a screen is. I mean, it’s incredible. My own kids, anybody’s kids.

It’s just a totally different way of interacting with the world. And I think to be able to [00:20:00] take advantage of that. In the youth basketball space makes a ton of sense. So coaches, don’t be afraid to pull your screen out and show your kids what it is that you’re trying to demonstrate and trying to get them to do.

All right. Number seven, we kind of touched on it a little bit, teach parents at the youth level. No person has a greater impact on a players. Love of the game and improvement than parents. We must educate basket basketball parents. So they stop being the obstacle and become the way shout out to Ryan holiday at a youth program should have mandatory parent involvement.

Tyler Coston: [00:20:30] Yes. So I did, I did something with my club a once a week where I actually brought the parents out on court to do a father, son, mother, daughter, mother, son, whatever parent child workout. And we had some injuries. Okay. But we had a ton of fun and I coached the parents. Those parents that participated were immediately.

The greatest supporters of the program, were you immediately way [00:21:00] more empathetic to the challenges because parents will absolutely turn it over. And then after they get out, they’re like can’t walk

Mike Klinzing: [00:21:09] and dribble.

Tyler Coston: [00:21:12] Oh man. The humility was just flowing. And, and I think it’s just more of an approach. Like. Coaches hear horror stories about parents from other coaches coaches all probably have had their horror stories. And what that’s done for a lot of coaches is, is like a lot of phobia around parents. Like they’re the enemy.

And so I, I know that many coaches, especially young coaches try to keep parents at arms length. Please don’t come into practice. Don’t talk to your kid. And they try to like push them away, put them away because of all the damage that they can do. I think youth. Programs and youth coaches should embrace parents.

They want to be there anyway. They’re driving them anyway. At least tell them what they should do. You know, if you have an over-involved parent, that’s like talking too much, give them a job and have them stick to it. Okay. Like your job is to [00:22:00] clap every time someone rebounds and say, great rebound, that’s your job.

You know, direct their energy, which is probably being misdirecting, the least something positive. And then as you start to teach them, at least they might say something intelligent from the stands instead of shoot it. So I, I just think it’s an approach to embrace instead of hold at arms length.

Mike Klinzing: [00:22:17] Yeah.

That’s a great point. And we’ve heard that from several different successful high school coaches where they’ve gone from, Hey, I tried to do exactly what you said. I tried to keep the parents out of my hair. I tried to keep them out of the program. I’m going to have as little to do with them as I possibly can.

And that ended up creating more problems because then you had this lack of communication. And when I really embraced them and brought them in and gave them something to do and made them feel a part of the program, it made it much easier. One to avoid problems, but two, if there were problems now we’ve already established a positive rapport and a relationship that enables us to have a more rational discussion.

Then if the first time you ever talked to a parent is when you’re having these issues with planning time or whatever it might be. If that’s the first time you’ve talked to [00:23:00] someone. That conversation is going to be a lot more difficult than it is. If it’s somebody that for the last three months, you’ve been engaged with them in a positive way, it becomes a lot easier to be able to have that first difficult conversation.

So bring your parents into your program, whether you’re a high school coach, a youth coach, a great idea. I love doing the parent child stuff out on the court and creating a little bit of humility. I think that would be a plus. I’m sure it was entertaining for coaches as well. All right. Number eight, discovery method part one.

Youth structure should be about discovery and constraint with very games, unique problems. Youth players can achieve creativity. The secret sauce of great basketball players is cleverness and creativity. All right. So explain what you mean.

Tyler Coston: [00:23:43] Okay. So most youth practices, most practices in general have a lot of structure.

Okay. Now we’re going to do three man weave, and here’s how you do three man weave. And you got to do it just this way. That doesn’t foster [00:24:00] creativity in a player if I’m just following direction, whereas all the best players. Are the most creative ones, the ones that are game changers when Steve Nash changed the game.

Now Steph Curry changed the game. It’s because they didn’t conform. They actually reformed. And so I think what we want to, one of the most valuable skills we want to see in players is creative problem solving, not the ability to follow. Direction. So what does it look like? Maybe it looks like you blow up a bunch of balloons and partner them up and say your job is to get the balloon from this baseline to that baseline without traveling.

And without the balloon hitting the ground go, right. So you’re still gonna get ball-handling envisioned passing as well as communication, but you didn’t give them. The the, the method. So I think it’s really discovery method is about not giving the method. Discovery method is about giving an objective and letting them come up with however they want it to get there, right.

Or say, Hey, we’re going to play we’re going to play five [00:25:00] on five to five. Any shot you take from the paint’s worth three, any shot you take outside of the paint is worth a half. Go right now, they’re going to figure out a way to do it. You know, so whatever it is, like put some constraint on it, but let them discover it and actually talk less and, and, and give them a method

Mike Klinzing: [00:25:18] less.

And I think most coaches find that, especially if you try to do it for the first time, find that difficult to talk less and to let kids discover on their own. Because as coaches, I think we tend to want to. We want to quote, coach, we want to quote, teach, which is us talking. It’s not the kids discovering.

And you have, you have somebody who’s sitting on the sidelines. Who’s watching that and saying, well, why isn’t this guy coaching? What are they doing? They’re just standing there watching, they’ve set up this system and then they’re letting the kids discover. And it’s a, it’s a difficult thing. I think teachers face that same face, that same challenge, that the old method of just standing in front of people and lecturing, especially in today’s society with kids.

Doesn’t. Work, and it’s not as [00:26:00] successful as transferring learning. So being able to set up a system of discovery and constraint and putting them in position, which we’re gonna talk about here in a minute about being able to experiment and become creative. I think that’s one of the things that, because we play so many games with referees and with parents in the stands and people watching and a scoreboard that the creativity that kids use to find out in the driveway or down at the playground, That’s I think where I that’s, I think where we lose out on that cleverness and creativity, because they’re just not, they’re never getting to do things in a situation where somebody isn’t evaluating them, even if it’s just their parents.

On the car, ride home, telling them what they should or shouldn’t have done. So I couldn’t agree more with that with number nine discovery method. Our use system is not set up for that. As we put players in positions require performance and punish experimentation, set goals, establish guardrails, and let them create.

This is the basis for elite performance, not passing and catching with two hands, correct me if I’m wrong. But what I see here is [00:27:00] a situation where it’s kind of that old theory of learning. Is messy. If you want to put kids in two lines and get them to do the same thing over and over and over again, it’s easy to get pretty good at that drill.

But if you’re going to have them actually figure out how to play that doesn’t look quite as pristine.

Tyler Coston: [00:27:15] Nope. Absolutely not. And I think it’s probably a part, the ratio of practices to games, which at the youth level, it’s kind of, one-to-one you’ll probably have one practice to one game if you have two practices in a week and then on the weekend you have it’s two to four games.

And so that’s why it’s not set up for that because games require performance as it’s currently set up, you know? And then I also think that The, the desire for winning when someone makes a mistake from experimentation on the court, right. They try to make a pass that they’re not strong enough to make, and they throw it away.

Or they try something crazy like a behind the back pass. And it goes out of bounds. They tent players tend to get benched [00:28:00] immediately. Right. That’s a performance kind of based decision where in that punished experimentation. And so I think another part of the system we’re trying to create here is one that actually celebrates experimentation and you know, is attempting to get Equal amounts of playtime for all, not just playing time, but playtime for all.

I

Mike Klinzing: [00:28:20] agree. I think that free play and that ability to try stuff is something that’s lacking. I always think about, I started out, my son is a freshman. Now we started out with him in third grade with a team and my. Kosha my assistant coach and I, we talked about, well, how can we make sure that our kids can work on their weekend?

And how can we, how can we encourage them to do that? And one of the things that we decided right from the very beginning was that anytime they shot the ball with their, we cancel for most players on the left side. Like we want you to shoot with your left hand. I don’t care if it bounces off your head. I don’t care if you drop it out of bounds and hits the bottom of the back board every single time you do that, whether it’s in a game or it’s in practice.

We’re going to cheer. We’re going to clap. We’re going to say, Hey, great [00:29:00] job. And by the time those kids were in fifth grade. They could all shoot layups with their weekend because they knew that they could try it. And again, that’s a very simple example of experimentation. It’s not really talking about creativity, but it is an example of how you can, how you can just make sure that you’re getting something that is a long-term look.

If we had told them, Hey, only shoot the ball with your strong hand. We might’ve got better. We got, might’ve gotten better results and more made layups on there in third grade. But later on, we would have hurt their development. I think that’s really what we’re talking about here is making sure that we’re looking at the longterm.

All right, implement immediately. Number 10, any teaching do youth players must provide space and time for them to implement right away. This should be a practice in place structure. When your practice looks like play and your play looks like development, that’s youth basketball done, right?

Tyler Coston: [00:29:44] So oftentimes.

Coaches teach too much. So I’ll go to a youth practice or even a high school practice. And I’ll take a peek at the coaches practice plan. And it’s an entire page long [00:30:00] with many sub points for each drill or section of their practice. I went to a Duke practice a few years ago. Sitting in the stands coach, Kay.

Hands us his practice plan. And it had three things on it for the entire group. Right. And so, and, and, and I think that’s just kind of the, the indicator, like the more experienced coaches are more simple and a common youth coach will. Say multiple things and then go play. And when one thing goes wrong, stop and start talking again.

Right. So if you’re going to, if you’re like concurrent feedback is the worst form of feedback. Pass the Johnny, be strong with the basketball, throw it to Timmy, Timmy, shoot it like that’s current feedback. They need to actually hear one thing and then go implement it immediately, because think about.

You know, anytime we learned something, we didn’t learn it when we heard it, we learned it when we did it for the first time. And so like, we got understand that learning takes place in the doing, not in hearing.

Mike Klinzing: [00:30:56] Okay. Totally. All right. Number 11. And number 12, kind of go together. Number 11 is [00:31:00] play games.

Number 12, play the right game. So more about practice and play. The majority of youth practice should be games. Three keys, keep it short. Don’t teach until after use constraints to direct desired outcomes. And then underneath play the right games, youth basketball should prioritize, prioritize movement, ball touches, scoring, learning, and fun.

The right games are three, three on three FIBA style, small sided games and practice skill games every day. So just maybe give us some examples of some things that if somebody is a youth coach that you could implement into their practices right away. Yep. W

Tyler Coston: [00:31:31] w I’ll go, I’ll go bigger than smaller. Here’s bigger.

I would actually suggest that all basketball, seventh grade and younger should be played three on three. Amen. Yeah, I wouldn’t even play if I’m a five. So, I mean, that would be a big societal change. Right. And the reason being it’s easier to score three on three. Five one five, and that’s a lot more fun.

They’ve got more space. They’ve got more time. They’ll touch the ball more. Cause there’s two less players on the floor. And three on three games are a lot [00:32:00] faster and they’re doing ball things more than not running back and forth. All right. So we can talk about that forever. That’s

Mike Klinzing: [00:32:05] absolutely.

Absolutely. But

Tyler Coston: [00:32:07] then, okay. Let’s, let’s talk about playing games and practice. Drills are more effective. When players have a lot of context. Drills are less effective and players don’t have very much context, meaning they haven’t had a lot of game reps. Young players have not had a lot of game reps.

And so they have really a big challenge with transference, transferring a drill to a game situation. It just doesn’t work very well. So playing more games and practice allows them to get more valuable and relevant experience so that when feedback or when a drill is done, it might actually have some sort of an impact.

Kids have a very short attention span. So when we’re playing these games, we want to keep them real short. We already talked about how concurrent feedback is the worst sort of feedback it’s taken all their attention, just to catch the ball and [00:33:00] not break their nose. So stop teaching them in the middle of it.

You’re actually distracting them from doing anything. Wait until after the game and teach a little bit. Then if you want something, use some sort of constraint to direct director, desired outcome. If you want players to move around more without the basketball. Take away dribbles they’ll have to move around in order to get the ball.

So use constraints to teach instead of your voice. And so all, all of those type of games, like three-on-three and small sided games with constraint,

Mike Klinzing: [00:33:27] those are the right types of games. Yeah. That’s great stuff. And I think that it’s one of the ways that I think basketball is changing in this direction.

I think this is one of the ways, places that we are making progress, at least in the practices that I see and the things that people that I talk to. I see a lot more people using games. To teach the game as opposed to just running out drills. And that’s one thing that I do think we’re, we’re making progress on.

We’re not quite where we need to be, but I do think people are starting to recognize that in order to learn how to play the game, you actually have to [00:34:00] play the game and not just drill. And that goes to number three, that goes to number 13, explore the edges of the sandbox. Encourage the crazy, the crazy, the game changes.

And typically youth basketball is 20 years behind. Instead youth basketball should be at the forefront of the movement. There is no better place to experiment with style and skills. Yeah.

Tyler Coston: [00:34:17] I mean, w give me your take on that. I mean, you’re really plugged in. Would you agree that youth basketball tends to be behind the edge or have you seen something

Mike Klinzing: [00:34:25] different?

It gets behind. I mean, I do think that there’s, there’s times where you look at it and you’re like, why are we still doing X, Y, or C out there on the court? Why are. Why are we still playing zone defense? Why are we not shooting more threes? If we have the one thing here’s the, here’s what I would say. The thing that when I, when I read this, the thing that I would go to is what you’d said a second ago.

I’m I’m constantly advocating for look. If you really want it to develop players, then we would have, everything would be three on three instead of five on five, up through again, pick whatever grade level you want. Sixth grade, seventh grade, [00:35:00] fifth grade, whatever those younger kids don’t need to be spending all that time, running up and down a high school floor where 75% of their time is spent jogging instead of actually playing basketballs.

That’s number one. And then number two, I was just having this discussion, this discussion with somebody the other day. Why can’t we lower the basket, like I’m coaching right now, fifth grade girls. And so we play, we play a game and you know, maybe, maybe a team score is 25 points in a 30 minute stop clock game.

Let’s say, but imagine if they were playing on an eight and a half foot basket, how many more points they would score? How many more girls would go home? Happy how many parents would go home happier because they saw their child make a basket. Like, why can’t, why can’t we do that? Like, why can. We do something like that.

It wouldn’t be that hard to implement. I know there’s some gyms where you don’t have adjustable baskets and there’s, there’s obviously times where you couldn’t do it, but we certainly could do it very easily. And I, I have no idea what the argument would be against it. If you’re going to tell me, well, eventually they got [00:36:00] a shoe in a 10 foot basketball, a fifth grade girl in LeBron, James should not be shooting a basketball on the same basket.

So, so yeah, I think there are things that we could do that would be outside the box, but I don’t know if you really think about it. If they are outside the box, if that makes any sense. Yeah. Yeah. They’re just

Tyler Coston: [00:36:16] different than how we’re doing them now. Correct. I think it’s just like an openness and openness to prioritize players success and experience over Oh five on five basketball,

Mike Klinzing: [00:36:29] right?

Absolutely. All right. Number 14. Intrinsic motivation. Most practices. I’ve seen have a coach, constantly yelling and telling players to move faster, care more and do a thing. Coach motivation is a hell of a drug creating addicts for life. We don’t want addicts. We want athletes. Self-motivated ones at that.

And I touched on that a second ago when I said the kids who are eventually going to be the best players are the ones who. They internalize it, they care and they want to get better. It’s not because their mom wants them to get better or their coach or their dad or their cousin. It’s because they have that internal drive to want to be a good

Tyler Coston: [00:36:59] player.

[00:37:00] Absolutely. And you know, I said the hell of a drug, cause it’s crazy. I work with so many high school and college players now and we’re in a workout and they’re like, Can you get on me a little bit more? Can you yell at me a little bit more like this hospital? And I’m like, I’m like, no, I actually won’t.

Cause that’s not serving you. Like, if you need that, then you’re never going to be great. And I think it’s a product of, yeah, just, just having it, having had that for their entire career. And so I think it’s just so important to have athletes do tough things and get through it on their own. I mean I’m trying to do that with my kids right now.

I have a five and an eight year old and that we have a bunch of kids that I train once a week and every single week we haven’t gotten through a train session without at least one person crying. And it’s not because I’m yelling. Cause I don’t talk very much at all. It’s just because I asked them to do really hard things.

You know, and, and someone walks off crying and I love it because they have to learn to manage those [00:38:00] emotions and overcome the frustration and get back on the court and achieve it because no one’s allowed to quit. Like you, you have to finish it no matter how long it takes you. And I think that resilience is what we should be teaching youth basketball players.

Mike Klinzing: [00:38:13] Yeah. It’s really important that I think that it’s. It’s hard when we don’t when you give kids an opportunity, it’s hard to not want to step in and make it easier for them both. As a coach, you talked about as a parent, we always want to kind of smooth that path ahead of them instead of. Watching them struggle.

And so often as parents, that’s a difficult thing to do is to watch our kids struggle and coaches feel the same way. And so we want to make things easier. Instead, you got to get them right up to the edge of that comfort zone so that you’re pushing them to the point where. It is a struggle and they have to understand that if you want to be good again, this could translate.

It’s not just basketball. That translates to anything in life. You want to be good at something it’s going to be a struggle. You and I talked about this podcast before we jumped on here. And I talked about how at the beginning, it was a struggle, figuring out the [00:39:00] technology, trying to make sure that I wasn’t saying, Oh, every other word and all those things that go along with you trying to improve your craft.

And it applies in every single walk of life. And if you can learn that from sports, you can learn that for basketball. Man, what a great thing that we’re doing for our kids. Cause ultimately. There’s not very many people that are getting a chance to make a living, playing basketball, but there’s a lot of people that are going to play basketball that are then going to go on and make a living doing something else.

And if we can use basketball to be able to help them, that part of their life, then we’re really, really doing something which goes to number 15, autonomy players care more about what they choose and the given practice game or training, let them choose their position. Let them choose the game, the score, the color of their Jersey, practice, autonomy and youth basketball.

And they will be able to build a career on self. Governance. So just give us an idea of what you mean there. I mean, it’s pretty self-explanatory but just fill in a couple of details

Tyler Coston: [00:39:49] there. Yeah, it was, I’ll just give two, two thoughts for parents and coaches that hopefully are listening. A youth coach should be a guide on the side, not the Sage on the stage.

If you gotta be the [00:40:00] Sage on the stage. If, if it’s about you and youth basketball, you shouldn’t be doing it. You shouldn’t be doing it. And I think the second piece is. Why I demand a change in 12 children when a small change in yourself could make all the difference. I mean, I think that’s, I think, I mean, whether it be like the name of the team or what game goes first, or how many points you play like, like.

They, they will feel more ownership over that, which they get to choose. So give up all the small things. And I think you’ll find that you get a lot more engagement

Mike Klinzing: [00:40:33] or fun. Totally true. I try to always give up the cheer when we break the timeout huddle. That’s one of the things that I always assign like first day, I’m like, okay, your homework tonight is figuring out what the team share is going to be when we have the timeout.

And there’s. I mean, I’ve had some good ones and I’ve had some I’ve had, so I’ve had some paragraphs I’m like, do we really want to spend 25 seconds saying this particular thing? Maybe we can tweak it a little bit and make it a little shorter, [00:41:00] just so we can break the time out before the before it’s supposed to be over.

But yeah. Anyway, those are just examples of things that you can do that kids. They gravitate that stuff and it, and when it’s theirs and it’s not something that’s dictated by an adult, as you said, they care more about it and it becomes more important to them. Number six, number 16, give advantage.

Basketball’s hard. It takes a long time to get good weed. Like things we improve in youth basketball needs advantages, not obstacles. We’ve already talked basically about all these 10 foot goals, big, heavy balls, 94 foot courts, and lots of people make it hard. Give kids a chance. Build an advantages. So we’ve talked about pretty much all of those at some point here.

Alrighty.

Tyler Coston: [00:41:36] We did. I think I would just add this, like in practice, most of your games should be advantaged games. So three on one games, three orphans players, one defensive player, let them be successful. One-on-one advantage games where the defender has to start grossly disadvantaged or play with their eyes closed.

I mean, we need to make it easy for players at the beginning. It’ll get hard enough.

[00:42:00] Mike Klinzing: [00:41:59] Absolutely. Couldn’t agree more. Number 17, no excuses, youth basketball is full of excuses. Often malt modeled by adults make it a no excuses space. These excuses are often a result of wrong minded goals. Change the goal from a status driven one to a development driven one and watch the excuses of evaporate.

Tyler Coston: [00:42:18] I mean, I I’ll just, that would be. The number one principle or lesson that I think should be the goal of every youth basketball coach or youth basketball program. Let’s take radical ownership. You know, let’s teach players to take radical ownership. I know my five-year-old daughter. We were dribbling around last night in the living room and she said, that’s not fair.

Maybe two or three times when I was out. And she said, that’s not fair. That’s not fair. And we had, we had a come to Jesus moment. In that moment. And I, and I, I just think that society is full of excuses is in blame and accusations. Right. And this is what youth basketball should be teaching is [00:43:00] just take responsibility.

Life’s not fair. Don’t expect it to be.

Mike Klinzing: [00:43:03] Yeah. I agree with you there. I always come back to I’ve coached at the youth level and one of the things that. Always happens inevitably, as you run up against the team, that is a lot better than you, that presses you the whole game and continues to press until the very last second.

And I’ll oftentimes have parents come up to me after games that I can’t believe they did that, or a kid on my team will say, why did they keep pressing him when they’re winning? And my, my response to that is always look as a coach. I personally wouldn’t do that, but if you don’t like that happening to you.

Then you have to get better and you know, it’s not always easy for people to hear, but the reality is is that if you don’t want people to. Beat you on the floor, then you got to figure out ways to improve and continue to get better. And I could make an excuse and say, well, they this or that, but the reality is you just have to rise up to meet those challenges.

And that goes to number 18. Level up competitiveness is a skill to grow even more so than technical skills. Measurement is magic [00:44:00] measure. Everything keeps score, test and test again, recognize reward them as they level up video games. Shouldn’t be more addicting than basketball level up.

Tyler Coston: [00:44:09] Yeah. I mean, that’s what the dopamine hits from on video games, right?

Your, your character love pulls up or you beat a boss or whatnot. And there’s like, ding, ding, ding, ding, and there’s stars. And like that’s a hit and then you want to get the next one, you just look to the next level why don’t we have that for player development? You know, I, I do, I do this with all of the kids that I train is I’ve got.

No five skills, I’ve got five levels for each skill and I’ve got scores that they’ve got to hit. And when they love love, they get a band almost like belts in karate. I, I, that is what’s addicting. And I think just by score and stuff they want to do one more, one more turn, one more attempt, one more attempt.

And that’s what we want, right. Is we want them to fall in love with the process of getting better. Absolutely.

Mike Klinzing: [00:44:53] All right. I have a personal question because this is one of the things that I always struggle with as a coach who [00:45:00] maybe doesn’t have an assistant. And so I want to be able to measure or keep track of things.

And I always find that once I start trying to measure and keep track of things, either I kind of lose track of what’s going on in the practice, or I have to kind of keep. I know what’s going on in the practice and I lose track of trying to measure things. So do you have a tip for maybe a singular coach out there?

How they can keep track of something that can do kind of what you’re describing here?

Yeah.

Tyler Coston: [00:45:29] So here I was thinking super easy. Hit me with a DM on Twitter at Tyler costs then T Y L E R C O S T O N. Or email me at coach Tyler costs at Gmail. And I’ll send you my basketball to cath lawn. It is because I think what you’re talking about is statting games or standing competitions or whatever.

Whereas this is a 10 minute. Individual skill development to cath lawn that you can do in 10 minutes that your entire team players keeps score for each other, knowing that they’ll mess it up [00:46:00] terribly that’s so they should score for each other. And then you can do it once a week or once every two weeks.

And. It’s it’s done in 10 minutes and I’ll send it to you. And that’s a great, just kind of a starter kit for how you can score things.

Mike Klinzing: [00:46:13] Perfect. Perfect co coaches, make sure you do that. All right. Number 19 challenge European premier league soccer clubs found resiliency, a greater indicator of elite success than any technical skills.

This must be a priority for youth basketball dose youth players with appropriate challenge attainable, but not easy. This grows the resilience.

Tyler Coston: [00:46:31] Yeah, I mean, Bond before you battle. And I think a lot of times we, we provide outs, excuses, shortcuts for youth players where they can handle a lot more than I think we even know.

And so just do hard things, ask them to do hard things and it doesn’t have to be running. You know, it can be make X amount of layups in a row as a group or get to a certain level of communication or [00:47:00] whatnot, but continue to level up the challenge and name it in your practice.

And so everybody knows it’s coming and I mean, that creates bonding and connection. As well as doing really, really hard things and sitting back and having them figure it out. That’s what I would suggest is like, just have a part of your practice, where they have to do really hard things. They don’t quit.

Yeah. I always

Mike Klinzing: [00:47:20] had that, the conversation with my own kids when it comes to not just basketball, but to anything. And I always tell them that anything that you’re going to want to do in life that’s worth doing that you’re going to enjoy is going to be a challenge. If stuff is super easy. You’re going to get bored with that really fast.

And you’re going to have a boring life. You want to have things in front of you that are a challenge, and you want to be able to figure out how to rise and meet that challenge. So resiliency obviously is key. All right. Number 20 show the love after the game show the love parents. Just remember you love your kid and you show up by saying, I love watching.

I love to watch you play coaches. Just remember you love to teach the game and you show it by saying less and smiling, more players. Just show you love. Players just show you [00:48:00] love the game and show it by loving the whole journey, stay up. And what here’s something that came to mind. When I read this, I had someone say to me, and I can’t even remember now who the person was that said it to me, but I was sitting with them in the stands at a high school game.

This was a couple of years ago and they turned to me and they said, Why do some of these parents even want to come to the games? They’re so miserable during the games, they’re yelling at the refs, they’re yelling at their kid. They’re yelling at the coaches. They constantly have a frown on their face.

They’re not happy. Why are they so invested in something that makes them. So miserable. And I think that’s something that I’ve tried to adopt in my own life, both as a coach and even probably more importantly as a parent, that when I’m sitting in the stands, I mean, I want my kids to do well. I want them to win just like anybody else, but ultimately it’s about them.

And I want them to know that I’m proud of them, regardless of what happens out there on the court. And that’s something just to keep in mind as we talk about this [00:49:00] particular topic. So go ahead, fill in, fill

Tyler Coston: [00:49:02] in. I don’t even think I need to fill in. I think that’s great. I think that’s great. I mean, I think you should you show you care, not by how upset and frustrated you get, right?

You show your care by having an outward focus. I think at the end of the day, it’s are you, are you being selfish or not? You know, like that anger and frustration is really just selfish because it’s, it’s sucking energy and sucking joy out of the whole experience for everybody else. You know, it’s just what you’re feeling.

Absolutely. And yeah. So I would just say, you show, you love about how you spread the love and and make it enjoyable for

Mike Klinzing: [00:49:34] others. I will say as a caveat that that is hard to do at times. If you are a con, if you are a competitive person and you are sitting in the stands, watching your kid, or you’re going to a practice or watching your child try to.

Do something, or you, maybe you want them to go a little bit harder or maybe you wish that they would go to a couple more workouts a week. It is hard to sit back and remember that it is about them and [00:50:00] not about you, but I can tell you from firsthand experience that my own kids, to this point, that ultimately they’re going to find basketball or not find basketball as the case may be.

Because as we’ve said that they are intrinsically motivated. And you want them to find something that they love, regardless of if it’s the same thing that, that you, that you love or not. And it’s really important. And sometimes I just said, it’s hard to do as a parent. It’s not, it’s not the easiest, it’s not the easiest thing.

All right. So we’re going to wrap up here. We’re going to go back to number two and I’m just going to read the statement. Youth basketball is broken, start over. So let’s ask this final question. If we were going to start over, what’s the one minute spiel on what youth basketball would look like. If Tyler Costin could design the youth basketball system here in the United States from scratch, give us the one minute elevator pitch of what that would

Tyler Coston: [00:50:51] look like.

All right. It’s going to be radical. Here we go. Five point plan 0.1, no one actually plays organized [00:51:00] basketball for fourth grade. That’s radical. Good point number two fourth through seventh grade is only played three on three half court. No five on five and organized basketball until after seventh grade.

0.3. They’re playing with smaller balls on lower hoops that graduates as they get older point number four is we invest heavily, whether it be from a club or from individuals or from NBA teams, we invest heavily in having a technical director over a region or over a, an organization that is going to set a standard.

For what is taught and how it’s taught. And lastly, if you want to sign your kid up as a parent, there’s required parent involvement in either education or going through workouts with them so that you can be a part of the journey and not a part of the problem.

Mike Klinzing: [00:51:59] That’s [00:52:00] fantastic. It’s great stuff. I think, as we’ve talked about throughout this episode, that probably can, will, and is able to be started at.

The grassroots level one person, one coach, one organization at a time. And as people start to see the benefits and all those things that you just said, and that we talked about over the course of the last hour, hopefully anybody who’s coaching out there, whether you’re a high school coach, a college coach, a youth coach, whether you’re a parent, hopefully you take at least some of the things that we’ve talked about and begin to try to implement them into what you do.

All that being said, Tyler, I cannot thank you enough. For spending an hour of your time with us today to kind of go through those 20 ways that we can improve youth basketball. It’s been a pleasure, getting a chance to go back and forth with you and talk about some of the things that. Honestly have been the themes that have run through what we’ve talked about here on the podcast and that I’ve tried to do when I talk to people outside of my [00:53:00] official capacity as a podcast.

So, so thank you. First of all, for writing the article you put a lot of great things out there that I’ve read and shared with people over the years. It was a pleasure to be able to have you on thank you so much for being a part of it today, before we get out, once again, share how people can reach out to you on social media, share your email, and then I’ll come back in and wrap things up.

Tyler Coston: [00:53:20] Perfect. Well even as you were talking, I am committed to doing this and not just talking about it. And so if you’re someone that wants to do this, you want to run a youth three on three week, or you want to, you want, you want some help with your youth program. That’s what I’m committed to doing over the next 10 years is being a part of the solution.

I want to help you. That’s on my heart and I want to help you get it done. And when I helped many people get it done. So reach out to me at Tyler cost and T Y L E R C O S T O N on Twitter. My DMS are open. I put out a bunch of content on Twitter or you can head to Tyler cost and.com. And you can get on my newsletter there, or just email me [00:54:00] directly, directly coach Tyler costs at Gmail.

And I want to help you run it through on three league or improve a youth program. Or just improve you as a youth coach. That’s what I’m about.

Mike Klinzing: [00:54:09] Fantastic! Tyler again, thank you so much for being a part of it to everyone out there who is listening, please try to implement some of the things we talked about.

Please reach out to Tyler. I know he’ll be a tremendous resource for anybody who is looking to make changes in their youth basketball program and in the youth basketball system. And we appreciate you listening to this episode and we will catch you on the next one. Thanks.

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