COACH’S CORNER ROUND TABLE 16 – WHAT ADVICE WOULD GIVE A YOUNG COACH JUST ENTERING THE PROFESSION? – EPISODE 288

Welcome to the sixteenth edition of the Coach’s Corner Round Table on the Hoop Heads Podcast. Each episode of the Coach’s Corner Round Table will feature our All-Star lineup of guests answering a single basketball question.  A new Coach’s Corner Round Table will drop around the 15^th of each month.

April’s Round Table question is:  What advice would you give a young coach just entering the profession?

Our Coaching Lineup this month:

• Doug Brotherton – The Village School (TX)
• Erik Buehler – Chatfield (CO) High School
• Chris DeLisio – Olmsted Falls (OH) High School
• Jeff Depelteau – The Berkshire School (MA)
• Jason Fry – Pure Sweat Basketball
• Joe Harris – Lake Chelan (WA) High School
• Dell Leonard – Mountain Home (AR) High School
• Nick LoGalbo – Lane Tech (IL) High School
• William Payne – Miami University Hamilton (OH)
• Mark Schult – University of West Georgia
• Dave Severns – Los Angeles Clippers
• Don Showalter – USA Basketball
• John Shulman – University of Alabama Huntsville (AL)
• Joe Stasyszyn – Unleashed Potential – Carlisle, PA
• Lee Swanson – Bunker Hill (NC) High School
• Ryan Virtue – Positive Coaching Alliance
• Todd Wolfson – St. Francis (CA) High School

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Advice from our All-Start Lineup of Coaches

• Doug Brotherton – The Village School (TX) – “Focus on relationships”
• Erik Buehler – Chatfield (CO) High School – “Get out & coach as much as possible” “Find a mentor” “Read & listen to learn” “Be great where you are”
• Chris DeLisio – Olmsted Falls (OH) High School – “Keep it simple to start out”
• Jeff Depelteau – The Berkshire School (MA) – “Develop authentic relationships with other coaches” “Listen & learn from those who have been through it before”
• Jason Fry – Pure Sweat Basketball – “Master one part of the game”
• Joe Harris – Lake Chelan (WA) High School – “Keep your coaching simple” “Be passionate about the people”
• Dell Leonard – Mountain Home (AR) High School – “Be an assistant first” “Watch practices, read books, watch videos” “Develop a relationship with a great coach” “Work camps & clinics” “Don’t be friends with parents” “Be a great teacher too” “Get to know coaches in your league” “Get involved in the community” “Be yourself” “Tell the truth”
• Nick LoGalbo – Lane Tech (IL) High School – “Get in touch with your why”
• William Payne – Miami University Hamilton (OH) – “Decide if you really want to coach because you have to go all in”
• Mark Schult – University of West Georgia – “Be where your feet are” “Be willing to sacrifice” “Never pass up a basketball opportunity”
• Dave Severns – Los Angeles Clippers – “Don’t get married or make sure you have a very supportive spouse”
• Don Showalter – USA Basketball – “Work really hard in the job you have” “Be a sponge and always learn”
• John Shulman – University of Alabama Huntsville (AL) – “Connect & collect people” “Don’t self-promote, work” “Get organized and write down all your sets” “Use your summers to work and improve”
• Joe Stasyszyn – Unleashed Potential – Carlisle, PA – “Find mentors, but be yourself” “Build rapport, trust, and relationships with people in your program” “Explore how you want to do things” “Help players understand what you want” “Always have a plan for everything you do” “Find loyal assistants” “Develop a great feeder program” “Be a learn it all” “Develop an effective off-season program” “Encourage multi-sport athletes” “Establish standards, not rules” “Be a good coach, not a nice coach – hold kids accountable” “Have an open relationship with parents” “Fairness is earned, Fairness does not mean equal”
• Lee Swanson – Bunker Hill (NC) High School “You’re going to fail a lot, learn how to handle failure” “Never stop learning” “Coaching is about relationships, not wins and losses”
• Ryan Virtue – Positive Coaching Alliance – “You coach the athlete first and the sport second”
• Todd Wolfson – St. Francis (CA) High School – “Do the best at your current job and stop looking for forward towards other jobs”

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Welcome to the 16th edition of the coach’s corner [00:02:00] round table on the hoop heads podcast. Each episode of the coach’s corner round table. We’ll feature our all star lineup of guests answering a single basketball question. A new coach’s corner round table will drop around the 15th of each month. April’s round table question is, what advice would you give a young coach just entering the profession?

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Doug Brotherton, the village school, Houston, Texas.

Doug Brotherton: [00:02:55] That’s a really good question. And my advice to young coaches,  is pretty simple, pretty [00:03:00] generic, but I think it just ends up proving true, is that you need to focus on relationships.

You need to focus on the processes that you’re putting in place.  and those are really important. You know, the, the results are really tough. You know, that’s the thing that keeps us up at night. But in reality, your processes and. Your ability to continue to low learn and grow and adjust is what’s going to lead to better longterm sustainable success.

And those relationships are really kind of the lifeblood of your career there. You know, what you hang your hat on. And  most of the time with the players that you coach, if you don’t have a relationship 10 years after they’re done playing for you, you know, I would question how impactful your, your job was as a, as a basketball coach.

Cause. Yeah, as we all know, basketball runs parallel to life and there’s just so many lessons to be taught. The relationships are the best part. And then lastly, I think the best advice I got,  early in my coaching career was just to be authentic. Don’t try to be someone else, don’t try to be another coach, you know, really stay true to yourself, your core values and your [00:04:00] beliefs.

And if you’re able to do that and you know, continue to build relationships and clean up your processes, you’re going to have a long fulfilling career as a coach. And,  it’s just going to be really special to be a part of.

Mike Klinzing: [00:04:13] Eric Buehler, Chatfield finger high school. Littleton, Colorado.

Erik Buehler: [00:04:19] This is Eric Buehler will Chatfield senior high school in Colorado.

And this month’s round table we were asked, what advice would you give to young coaches just getting into the profession?  first I would say, get out, coach. Teach as much as you possibly can. Find every clinic, every camp you can attend and be an active participant in the coaching.  try to get jobs coaching at any level that you can.

It might be middle school, elementary age,  high school even, even if you’re just a volunteer. Go and seek out those opportunities. Next, I would say along with getting that [00:05:00] job, that those coaching jobs find a mentor.  the more you get out and coaching clinics and camps, the more you’ll meet people and you’re kind of start to build that network and you’ll start to figure out, Hey, I really like his style, or I like what he’s doing over at this school.

And then seek out that staff and see if there’s an opportunity for you to come in there. And. And participate on a regular basis, coaching,  but also find someone that can feed into you and pour into you and help you grow as a coach.  next, read and listen to anything you can get your hands on when it comes to coaching.

 and I’ll even add teaching to that because teachers are the best coaches out there. And if you’re both,  it helps you. Tenfold when it comes to this profession. But get out there, read any material you can get your hands on. We live in an age where there’s basically an endless amount of information on coaching now, and someone always has a bigger, better way of doing it, [00:06:00] and you just got to get out there and learn about it.

 and then finally, my last piece of advice is be great where you are.  if you’re a volunteer assistant coach for. A freshman team at a high school, be the best thing. Volunteer assistant coach, you can be at that level.  coach showman always tells a Gatorade story at theJ  camp. It kind of relates to this.

 but fill your role. If it’s to take stats, be awesome at taking stats.  if it’s your job to break down video, it’d be the best you can and break in the video down. Every job is important and, and really seek out ways to not only be great at it, but grow in that role. And. That should help you move up in this profession very quickly, but it takes time.

You need to have patients.  don’t think you’ve got it all figured out ahead of time. That was one mistake that I made when I was a lot younger and,  I’ve kinda humbled myself since then. The older I get, the more [00:07:00] humble. Again, it’s kind of funny how that works out that way, but,  good luck to you all out there.

It’s a tough profession to move up in, but it is. Totally worth it at the end of the day, at the end of the day. So thank you guys.

Mike Klinzing: [00:07:15] Chris DeLisio Olmsted falls high school, Olmsted falls, Ohio.

Chris DeLisio: [00:07:21] Hey guys talking about a young coach who’s just taken over a program and,  or even just a young coach in general, I think one of the mistakes, you know, the a lot of young coaches make, and, and it’s a good mistake, you know, they want to do so much because they.

Are so enthusiastic and there’s so many things they’ve thought about doing, and when they finally get the opportunity, I think that, you know, they really try to implement so many of those things. I’d say for a young coach, I think to start off, you’ve got to keep it simple.  and if you’re building a program, you gotta make sure everybody’s on the same page and your program all the way from high school all the way down to your youth program.

[00:08:00]  and just simplify things and make sure you’re. Kids are skilled and your coaches are working on skills, and that’s how you’re going to start things. And,  and after that, once a program is built, I think you have a little bit more freedom and opportunity and,  you know, to make things a little bit more advanced and you start to figure out what works for you.

And even though as an assistant, you have a lot of great ideas until you’re thrown into the fire. You really never know how it’s all gonna play out. So I think for young coaches, I need to, you know. Keep it simple to start out, get everybody on the same page in your program and then you can progress from there.

Thanks guys.

Mike Klinzing: [00:08:39] Jeff Depelteau, the Berkshire school, Sheffield, Massachusetts.

Jeff Depelteau: [00:08:46] What’s up Hoop Heads? This is Jeff Depelteau from Berkshire school in Sheffield, Massachusetts. Hope everybody’s staying safe. I hope you’re able to enjoy some time with your family.  stay connected with your friends and obviously use this time to learn and [00:09:00] grow.

 so with that, this month’s Roundtable prompt is, what advice would you give a young coach just entering the profession?  so for me,  the biggest advice that I would give any young coach would be develop some authentic relationships with peers, with coaches who have had a lot more experience than you.

 because you’re going to gain a lot through authentic relationships.  the ability to share, the ability to maybe text, share film,  just talk through issues with your,  with peers, and know that it’s coming from a really good, authentic place where everybody’s trying to help each other.  you know, I’ve done things.

 I’ve got a group of friends and coaching. We have a group chat that goes on throughout an entire basketball season and we’ll share clips of possessions that are kind of head scratchers to us. Oftentimes we may send full games and ask each other, Hey,  you know, what would your scouting report be on our team?

And so we [00:10:00] share that and just look to help each other out and help our teams out.  but bag, kind of getting a fresh set of eyes. With people that really don’t have any skin in the game. And so you know, that the feedback you’re getting is truly,  honest from their perspective and it’s there to help you out.

 so that is huge to develop those authentic relationships. And in basketball.  just like in anything, there’s a lot of relationships to that aren’t authentic. If you go to, you know, convention, the final four or a coaching conference or,  clinics, you know, oftentimes you see it all the time. You see the bro hugs that are not,  authentic.

 there’s not much there beyond that. And you want to get beyond those surface relationships,  when you’re looking to grow.  the second thing that I would say is really too full. You know, you want to be on this never ending quest to improve as a coach. And when you get into it, everybody I think has a sense that they know a really good amount.

It can help a program. [00:11:00] But,  constantly being on the seek and find mission. And that comes from Kevin Eastman,  former Celtics and Cooper’s assistant coach, and he works with a lot of coaches and mentoring.  but it’s really you, you’re always on this quest to learn more, find more, find ways that you can apply what you learned to your team.

 and then the last thing that I would say would be this ability to listen and learn. And for a lot of coaches, this is hard. You get together with the coaches and you almost want to share all analogy. You have.  and show how much, you know, and  you know, but the ability to listen and learn is really huge.

Especially when you’re in a situation, you’re in a room where you know, you’re not the smartest, best coach, most experienced coach you can really can learn. And so,  for young coaches who want to get out there that are eager to show, all they know is sometimes the best thing you to do is listen. And,  and learn from, from those who’ve already been through it.

And,  you know, those are great ways to learn. So everybody stay [00:12:00] safe, say, well, and I look forward to continue to contribute to this,  round table. Take care guys.

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Jason Fry, pure sweat basketball.

Jason Fry: [00:13:20] What’s up? Who? Pez nation. It’s coach Jay fry here answering the round table question of what advice would you give a young coach just entering the profession.

The one piece I would say is to master a part of the game, a piece of the game, a portion of the game, whether it’s often sir defense, whether it’s screening, whether it’s ball screen, whether it’s transition, whether it’s defensive positioning, whether it’s trapping, blitzing or pressing.

It doesn’t matter what it is, but master one piece of it this way in games, you know exactly how to attack it from an offensive [00:14:00] standpoint. Or a defensive standpoint. If you know all the offensive breeds, then that means that you know exactly what to do against every single type of defense. If you know all the defensive actions to do, then that means that from the office of standpoint, you could say, Hey, they’re doing this.

So we automatically know that they’re how to attack it from this angle. Okay, so we are always going to have an option to be able to help serve your coach. Live in games. This also gives you a heads up in terms of what to do one year and then now the next year to learn something new, to master something new.

So the goal would be to go five years mastering one new topic, and if that’s the case, then you are going to better be able to serve your head coach. And be in a better position to move forward as a head coach. Later on, you will have mastered five new things in five years that’s going to set you up for some great success.

I hope this helps. God

[00:15:00] bless

Mike Klinzing: [00:15:02] Joe Harris Lake Chelan high school Lake Chelan, Washington .

Joe Harris: [00:15:09] This is Joe Harris Harris Lake Chelan  high school. Today’s round table question, SS. What advice would you give a young coach. Just entering the provision. There’s two bits of advice that I think could benefit young coaches.

There’s coaching and then there’s being a coach. You need to keep the coaching part simple. Don’t try to do too much and just let your experience shape who you are and make you better. You always keep learning and just because someone else does it doesn’t mean it’s fits your style or fits your, your program.

Being

a coach is intangible. It gives you longevity in this game. Be passionate about the people in the game and those people in it. Take time to get to know your players on a human level and don’t forget about those people that are in your family and those who you work with all the while you strive to get the [00:16:00] best out of your team and individuals without taking shortcuts.

This helps create an identity that is not on the outcome of the scoreboard, because really a great day as a coach is having an impact or being able to influence a players or staff members life. And you can do that a lot of times through the actions you have with those individuals.

Mike Klinzing: [00:16:22] Dell Leonard mountain home high school, mountain home, Arkansas.

Dell Leonard: [00:16:28] This month’s round table question, what advice would you give a young coach just entering the profession? How bounce around a little bit on this, but I just kind of brainstormed and the first thing that came to my mind is, if at all possible, try to be an assistant coach first, especially if you can get a job in a program with a proven veteran head coach.

Even if that means you have to take the seventh grade job. [00:17:00] I honestly believe that it, it takes about three to five years, if not a little bit longer for a new coach to get comfortable in their own skin to develop that confidence and their own philosophy. And if you can do that under a great mentor, great coach.

And then you’re going to be set up better in the long run. It’ll save you a lot of headaches.  be a sponge. Learn, learn, learn, educate yourself as much as possible. And you do that by trying to go watch as many practices as you can. Go watch.  don’t just go watch the, the great coaches, you know, go watch football practices.

Go what? Seventh grade practices. Go watch people practice and you will learn something. Every time, even if it’s something you’re like, I don’t know if I want to do that, or we’re not going to do things that way. You still have learned something. Read books. Watch videos. Nowadays, especially right now with this pandemic, there are so many free [00:18:00] online clinics that you could really enhance your knowledge during this time.

 develop relationships with great coaches. Don’t be afraid to reach out to other coaches.  all of the great ones. A want to grow the game, and if someone doesn’t get back to you, then you don’t want to get to know them anyways. So the great ones are going to grow the game and they’re going to continue to, to help carry on,  this great profession that we have.

Work camps and clinics.  again, reach out and email and call and ask to go work university camps. Go asked to go work camps like snow Valley and five star and a different camps and clinics like that. Even if you have to travel. And, uh. Work long hours,  it doesn’t matter. It’s going to benefit you so much more in the long run.

So you gotta be willing to do that. I think you gotta be willing to do all of this even after you’ve been coaching for a long time. [00:19:00]  but by going out and working camps and clinics and, and going to watch practice and those type things, you’re going to network yourself. And again, it’ll, it’ll pay off in the long run.

Just some other things. I’m not in any particular order. Don’t be friends with parents. No. Especially if you’re there. Kids are playing for you. You can’t be friends with them. You can’t hang out with them and socialize them without it coming back on you.  they’re going to reach out to you as a young coach and they’re going to pursue you.

And you may think that they think you’re the greatest thing in the world. But. They really, really have ulterior motives. And,  most of them want to be your friend, not because of you, but because their kid and the fact that their kid is playing for you.  do your job in the classroom.  we talk about academics coming first.

You’ve gotta be the example on that as well. So do your job in the classroom. [00:20:00] The administration will appreciate you. And, um. Take care of your duties, your, your,  before school duties, your lunch duties, things like that.  detention, hall duties and things that you’re supposed to do. Do those things. And administration,  will take care of you.

 10 faculty meetings, potlucks, et cetera, things like that.  the more support.  that you give to other teachers and develop those relationship with other teachers.  the more it’s going to help you,  in your program to do the things that you want to do. Also, I think you need the develop strong relationships with the custodians, the secretaries, the lunch, ladies, cafeteria, ladies.

Those people are the salt of the earth when it comes to school systems. I can’t tell you how many times our secretaries have helped me out in a situation where maybe I was. I was afraid I wasn’t going to meet a deadline or something or reminded me of something important that was [00:21:00] coming up. So those, those three areas there, those people, they’re the custodians, the secretaries and the cafeteria ladies are worth their weight and go have a great rapport again, with administration.

Um. Get to know the other coaches in your league,  for scouting purposes. Also, when you, when you have a kid that you feel like deserves to be all conference or all state or something like that, then the better relationship. That you have with those other coaches, the more it’s going to help your kids.

Getting involved with the community is always something that’s, that’s important. Picking up trash, helping load trucks, unload trucks for the food bank, taking food to the food banks,  trying to serve dinner, maybe to,  a group that’s not very fortunate.  toys for tots or our Christmas time.  just do those things, but, but do them.

Being yourself. [00:22:00] Don’t, don’t do all because you’re trying to, you know, make yourself or your program better. But explain to your kids that you want to do these things and you, you, you want to help out a big one. Be involved. Be very involved with your Peewee basketball program, with your younger grades.  I think you gotta ultimately be honest.

Tell the truth. Care about your players as people, not just basketball players know about their families and their situations at home. And I’ve learned these things from a lot of the really good coaches and they’ve helped me. And again, I think you got to continue to do these things, but I think that’s the best advice I would give to a young coach entering the profession.

Mike Klinzing: [00:22:47] Nick LoGalbo, lane tech high school, Chicago, Illinois.

Nick LoGalbo: [00:22:53] This is Nick LoGalbo from lane tech high school in Chicago.  this round table question is, [00:23:00] what advice would you give a young coach just entering the profession. And I think the best piece of advice that I could give would be to really get in touch with your why.

You know, I think getting into the coaching profession can, can be a very convoluted journey, and there’s a lot of highs and lows and there’s a lot of twists and turns. And I think that, um. We, we very easily can get distracted and see what other people are doing with their programs or see other people.

We work with climbing the coaching ladder and getting into college or professionals, you know, and, and lose sight of maybe why we do what we do.  I think it’s really important that if you’re going to, you know, enter this profession that you really reflect on why you want to do this. And I think that every day when you get up having your Y drive, you drive your, you know, drive your decision making.

It will really keep you on track because it can be very easy to get distracted, like I said, and, and look at what everybody else is doing and how everybody else was doing it. But. When you [00:24:00] know your why and you get down to your purpose,  your how and what to take care of themselves. You know, for me it was always about I want to impact lives and I want to do it, teach you the game the right way, and I want the game to be a vessel and a tool to help young men become.

Better people. And,  I want our program to stand for something bigger than wins and losses.  I want it to shape lives.  and I think that if we do things the right way and compete at a high level, doing things the right way, that, that the winning will, will take care of itself.  so that’s, that’s some advice that I would share.

 I hope this is helpful and, and look forward, hear what everyone else has to say.  be well, be safe in this crazy time. It’s great to have such a strong community of coaches to, to band together and to continue to learn from. So thanks again for all you’re doing, Mike and Jason, and talk soon.

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William Payne, head coach, university of Miami, Hamilton.

William Payne: [00:25:35] Hey guys, this is William Payne, head coach at Miami university, Hamilton and the owner operator of the college basketball process.  it’s been a while since I added my 2 cents into the a round table discussion, but. This is one that I’m actually getting quite often.

So decided to jump in on this one.  first I want to hope you guys are safe and,  doing okay. But,  I think the question is very [00:26:00] dependent on what level of coaching the person is getting into. I think it looks very different for somebody entering the coaching profession at the high school level, versus the college level versus the pro levels.

So for me, I want to speak on the college level since that’s primarily what I’ve done.  I think for someone that’s wanting to break into the coaching profession, it comes down to one simple thing prior to doing so.

And that is truly deciding whether or not they want to do it and I know that that sounds crazy, but I believe that that’s very important, because once you make that decision.You have to understand that there’s no middle ground. The profession calls for complete and total commitment, unlike very few things I’ve ever been a part of. So you have to understand what you’re getting yourself into, and you have to know that there’s no middle [00:27:00] ground. You’ll either have to do it. All of the time or none of the time.

And so really understanding that prior to going into the profession or prior to making that decision,  you have to determine whether or not you’re able to give it your all. You’re going to sacrifice. So many family events, so much family time, so much time, that you’d be doing other things, family vacations, graduations, kids games.It’s going to require time from you, unlike anything. So go into it knowing that that’s what you’re willing to do. That you’re going to be putting in 12, 13, 14, 15 hour days, road trips, all of these things that require so much time and that the basketball aspect of it.

Only comes into play about 20% of the time, 80% of what you’re going to be doing is non [00:28:00] basketball related,  activities, driving, recruiting, even though that’s basketball, but I mean, the basketball games and practices only going to be about 15 to 20%.

Um. Scouting, phone work,  just, you know, academic studies.  following up with players,  dealing with issues,  equipment management, all these other things that come along with, with coaching that is often overlooked. So that, that’s my number one piece of advice is really set back and think about if you want to do it.

And if so, are you able to go all in. Or are you not? Because if you’re not, more than likely, you should make the decision not to coach. You guys have a great one.

Mike Klinzing: [00:28:44] Mark Schult, university of West Georgia.

Mark Schult: [00:28:50] What’s going on guys? Mark Schult, the university of West Georgia. Thanks for having me on this month’s question. What advice would you give a young coach [00:29:00] entering the profession.  some advice that I would give to other coaches entering profession,  is a bit cliche, but you know, be, be where your feet are.

 whatever level you’re working at. you’ve got to make that be the most important one.  ahead. You know, the, the old saying is, if you’re too busy looking at the next job, you’ll, you’ll forget to do your current job.  and I think it’s true. You know, in this profession it’s extremely competitive.  and the reality is, is that if you work hard and you do a good job where you’re at,  that’s just going to give you a chance.

It’s just going to give you a chance to evolve to the next level or to a higher level, depending on what your goals are.  you know, so the best advice to give is just work your tail off, right? And be willing to sacrifice,  never say no to any basketball opportunities you get.  and, and really just [00:30:00] focus on being the best version of yourself you can be in whatever your current situation is.

 I think if you do that, if you really focus on where you’re at,  ultimately that’ll, that’ll open up more doors down the road than,  you know, than if you’re only focused on the next step.

Thanks for having me on and we’ll see you next month.

Mike Klinzing: [00:30:26] Dave Severns from the Los Angeles Clippers.

Dave Severns: [00:30:31] My advice to the Hoop Heads podcast for young coaches don’t get married, and if you do or are married, you better have a very understanding wife if you’re going to be in this crazy business.

Mike Klinzing: [00:30:49] Don Showalter USA basketball.

Don Showalter: [00:30:55] Hi, Don. Showalter here for USA basketball. Question for today is, what advice would you give [00:31:00] a young coach that’s just starting out.  I think there’s three things. I would say. First of all, work really hard at where you’re at at the job you have, whether it be a,  middle school job, whether it be coaching, youth basketball, assistant coach, head coach, but really,  work hard at where you’re at.

 try to develop that program as best you can,  without thinking that down the road you’re going to be somewhere else.  so I think that’s first thing I would say. Second thing I would say is be a sponge. Be a sponge and that you really try to accumulate knowledge,  you know, not only from internet stuff, but, also attend clinics and camps to learn from people and, and get a mentor.

 I think,  when you have a mentor, then they can certainly help you with different things that come up.  in your coaching profession?  I think mentors are good for any,  coach who’s, [00:32:00] who is coached,  any number of years. We all need mentors. And the third thing is,  try to increase your network.

 your network is really important. I think just from the standpoint of,  your program,  work camps, work clinics, go to clinics.  kind of goes along with being a sponge, but,  you know, if you’re gonna increase your network, you need to  to get out and,  show people what you can do. And a lot of times people don’t know what you can do until you go to camps and clinics.

So I think those are the three things that I would certainly recommend for a young coach just starting. Thank you.

Mike Klinzing: [00:32:42] John Shulman, university of Alabama, Huntsville, and the 720 sports group

John Shulman: [00:32:49] is this John Shulman, head coach at university of Alabama in Huntsville. UAH and the question was, what advice that I would give to a young coach entering the [00:33:00] profession?

 a couple things.  I guess number one is, is two things connect.  and collect, connect with people,  connect with people, as many people as you can in a genuine way. Problem is, people know if you’re being genuine and people know if you’re just BS and,   and, and want to connect for a certain reason.

But I would connect. And then, and then collect, collect names, collect people. Don’t forget people.  I, I don’t know how you want to do it. We used to back in the day, have a Rolodex or, or put, you know, we used to use business cards back in the day.  you use your phone, but you know, I would connect with a lot of people and then collect a lot of people.

And,  if you’re a college coach and you’re connecting to high school coaches,  make sure. That you’re just not connecting.  when you need something,  when they got a [00:34:00] player and then you don’t ever call them again until they have another player,  connect often,  and, and collect as many people as you can in, in your world.

 next is, is learn, keep learning.  you got two ears and one mouth. So listen as much twice as much as you talk. That’s kinda hard for me, but as my wife.  but, but listen, listen and learn. Keep learning.  take your summers, take your summers and get organized, but learn, take,  a particular,  specific,  area of the game and learn and learn from others.

But keep learning as you go.  work where you are in and have to feed in.  don’t be one of those guys that, that the grass is always greener. On other sides to work where you are. People are watching you work.  [00:35:00] so you don’t have to self promote and key into, to move up in this world.  you just got to work.

And if you’re successful, people will recognize that you just got to work and you gotta you gotta grind.  make sure that, that you’re, you’re given credit to your staff or your head coach or the players.  don’t be that guy. Don’t be an I guy. Be a wee guy. I think you better take it out of your vocabulary.

Make sure that there’s a, we,  we did this and we did that. And,  so I, I don’t think you can be an I gap,  organized, be organized. Your organizational skills. If I was a young guy, you know. I don’t know. I would talk to Doug Brotherton down to Villa school down in Texas, you know, cause cause he worked with what fast draw.

 and, and I would just, I would be writing down all my sets. I would be keeping them on a computer. We didn’t have that back in the day when I was young. So I’ve [00:36:00] launched notebook after notebook.  I don’t even know where half of my sets are. So I would be very organized and start . Getting organized as soon as you enter this profession.

So by the end of it, you already know what’s going on and where you can find everything.  but just the whole thing, keep on improving. Use your summers to improve work and grind if you just work in, in your work ethic is uncommon. People will notice.  just to be honest, coaches coming in as profession, if it’s work, is probably not the right profession for you, cause you’re going to be underpaid and overworked.

But there is no better profession that, that I have seen or know of than being a basketball coach. I hope this helps.

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Joe Stasyszyn Unleashed potential Carlisle, Pennsylvania,

Joe Stasyszyn: [00:37:47] Joe’s decision, unleash potential. This month’s question is, what advice would you give a young coach just entering the profession? First of all, I just want to say, I hope everyone out there is doing [00:38:00] okay in this very difficult situation, difficult time, and are staying safe and healthy.

But to answer this question, there’s about five or six points I just like to cover in general about advice. I would give a young coach just now entering the profession. I think probably the most important thing is, you know, we ha we all have coaches that we have looked up to. Mentors, people we have studied and, and, and I think we get a lot of our ideas from those kinds of co, from those different kinds of coaches.

But I think, and it’s okay to emulate or take some things from all those coaches, but I think you have to always be yourself and coaching. I think you have to take things from other people and make them your own. I really don’t think you can completely just copy someone’s style or someone’s. You know, a way of doing things.

I think it’s just really important that you always be yourself when you’re coaching and just incorporate different things and tweak those things and make them, they’re your [00:39:00] own. So, first of all, I think that’s, I think that’s really, really important.  the other thing, and I, and I spoke about this, you know, almost every clinic that I do,  I speak about this and it’s an acronym.

 the word is re up and it’s R. E. U. P. I think,  in any coaching situation, the, this is very important. The R stands for rapport. I think the first thing you have to develop as a coach, you have to develop a rapport with your players to get a buy in from your players. And a trust. And not only players or parents, whoever it is in your program, administrators, athletic directors, principals, you need to develop a rapport.

I really think you’re, your key to success is relationships. I think you have to develop good relationships with all of these people, including your players, and then when you’re dealing with your teams. I think the, you know, the East stands for Explorer. I think you have to explore, you know, how you’re going to do this, how you’re going to run your team, how you’re going to run your program.

And then I think [00:40:00] the next thing is you have to,  make the players understand what it is you’re trying to do. Okay. In terms of maybe. You know, team development, individual development,  game strategy, all those types of things. And then obviously the last thing is a plan. You always have to have a plan, whether it’s a practice plan, whether it’s a game plan, pregame plan, post-game plan, debriefing the game, breaking down games, you know, whatever the situation situation entails.

So I really like to use that. The re up the R. E. U. P. I just think that’s a really, really. Important concept. I don’t think you can go wrong if you follow that model,  in your, in your coaching and your dealing with,  with, with people. And then,  the, the other, the other thing is when you’re, you’re just starting out your program.

I think one of the most important things as a coach is. You have to find loyal assistance.  sometimes they even believe, you know, you can sacrifice a little bit of knowledge for someone who is very loyal [00:41:00] and someone who has buy into what you’re trying to do. Because if you’re in a situation you don’t have, you don’t have coaches that are loyal to you and they’re, you know, they’re, when things go wrong, they’re second guessing you to other people and all those kinds of things.

I think loyalty is the biggest thing. And I always felt as a coach, you need to have your best coaches. Down at the lower levels. You know, if you have a year, a head, high school coach, I think you have to have some very, very good people down at your middle school levels because that’s the foundation of your program.

That’s where they really have to learn the basics of what you’re trying to do. And you know, that’s why I always felt that it was very important. You have some very, very good coaches and people down at the middle school levels. And along with that,  advice I’d give to any young coach is,  you need to have a feeder system.

A feeder program. So, you know, we always ran a elementary program and we always had great, great volunteers down there. We brought on people who were willing to volunteer their time cause they weren’t paid positions. It would come in and we’d have preseason meetings and talk to them about what we’d like to [00:42:00] see with our feeder program.

 just think those programs are very, very important and you have very, very good people. Down there,  in, in your, in your, in your feeder programs, a Oh, and also getting back to being yourself. I think you have to be a learn at all.  you know, there’s always know it all is and there’s learn it all as you know, and I, and I like to see when young coaches.

Or learn it all. So they’re willing to go to clinics. You know, like we have the USA basketball academies that are very, very good and a lot of, we’ve had a lot of young coaches go to those and not only young coaches, veteran coaches, and just develop your, you know, you’re talking about player development, there’s coach development also.

So always working on your, your coaching craft, your coaching skills. So I think, you know, go to as many clinics as you can, go to, go to as many camps,  you know, work as many camps as you can and learn from other people.  I’ve been in this business for a long time and I’m still learning. I’m learning every day.

I try to learn every day. I try to learn off of other people, as many people as I can. So becoming a learn it all is, is very, very important [00:43:00] also. And also an off season program. You know, you used to be many, many years ago. You know, basketball was just during the winter season, but it’s gotten so competitive now that you have to have, you know,  preseason open gems.

You have to have summer programs, summer leagues,  you know, you have to do individual development with your, with your players at different times during the year. So, I mean, just to make sure that you have a good off season. A program. And by that, and by saying that, you know, encourage the kids to play other sports, I don’t feel like you should tell kids not to play football or not to play baseball.

I think all the, all the, all the data shows that the more sports kids play, the better off they are. And, and, and college programs like that, multiple sport athletes. So I just think you got to encourage them to do other things too.  as far as roles, I really don’t like having a lot of rules. I would rather tell young coach that you should have standards.

What are the things your programs, [00:44:00] your program stands for? And I think that,  you know, if you have great standards and you have the players enforce those standards between themselves, a player led team is much better than a coach lead team. So I think if you have standards for your team rather than rules, because if you, if you put a lot of rules out there.

 you know, rules are made to be broken, but standards are our way of doing things that you do every day, and once you accept, and what are non-negotiables? Those kinds of things I think are very, very important. Um. And also I, I like to,  to use this term. You want to be a good coach or you want to be a nice coach.

 let me give you the difference here. Okay? You don’t want to be a nice coach. A nice coach allows kids to do whatever they want to do and they don’t hold kids accountable. A good coach will hold kids accountable and players accountable, cause players and kids will do what you allow them to do. And I don’t mean this in a negative way, I just think as a good coach.

You’re holding them accountable, maybe not telling them what they want to hear, but what they need to hear. And it goes [00:45:00] back to that rapport for re up.  you know, the better relationship and better rapport you have as a coach. The more you’re going to be able to be truthful and honest with your players.

Okay. And I just really think that, and I call it the price of nice. Are you willing to pay the price of being too nice? You know, you’re, you’re, you’re not there to be their best friend. You’re there to be there. A positive leader, mentor, and someone that’s not only gonna teach them about basketball, but the game of life.

So I, I really like that, that use that term, and I speak all over the country. I use that a lot.  you want to be a good coach, not a nice coach. You don’t want to have to pay that price of being nice. I always tell coaches that that price of nice is very, very, very expensive because. And at some point that nice is going to get you into trouble because you have to hold kids accountable in a positive way.

And,  because they will do what you allow them to do. So overall, I think,  you know, those, those things are the main things that I would,  would share with a young coach [00:46:00] and, and probably the last thing, and they’ll get up. Coach has asked me this all the time, you know, how do you deal with parents.

Well there, there’s been coaches that say, Oh, I won’t talk to parents. They’re going to be coaches that you know, will be the other way and try to be best friends with the parents. I think just like in every other situation, you have to have a relationship. You have to have a rapport. You cannot just tune out parents today because so many parents are involved in every aspect of kids’ lives and they look at kids a lot differently than you do because you have to look at.

A bunch of different kids when they’re looking at their kid. But I think you have to have an open relationship with, with parents. I think that,  you know, w one thing that I always told a parent is, you know, I won’t discuss anybody else’s playing time. I’m not going to come in and talk about, you know, about somebody else’s kid.

 my door’s always open to talk to parents about issues, but I encourage parents and players, they have an issue with playing time or something like that. They need to. Come in, the player needs to come in and talk in a mature way, [00:47:00] talk to the coach about playing time or, or something like that.  you know, there are kind of things that I just wouldn’t engage with a parent.

 you know, I think you have to set some boundaries, but you have to have a relationship with parents and, you know, and another thing I tell young coaches, the last thing is, you know, I think you have to tell players that they have to, you know, fairness is earned. Okay.  fairness is earned. Fair does not mean equal.

Be fair with each and every one of you. But it does not mean equal playing time. I think the, you know, they have to understand that upfront. So there are just some things that I think,  has worked very well for me when I was a high school coach,  for many years. And,  also a college coach. I just think that there some things that that could really help a young coach.

And,  I hope you’re able to use some of those ideas. Thank you very much.

Mike Klinzing: [00:47:51] Lee Swanson, bunker Hill high school in Claremont, North Carolina.

Lee Swanson: [00:47:57] This month’s question was,  what [00:48:00] advice would we give to,  coaches giving the profession?  I’ll probably break it into about three things. The first thing would be a understand that you’re going to fail and you’re going to do that a lot and how you handle that.

 and how you move forward will determine a lot about your coaching because,  you’re going to experience failure at some point.  and it may be years of, it may be months or it may be a decision, but how you handle that,  is going to be a big deal as well. You’re probably going to be able to stay in or not,  to,  I would say.

I, you’re never too old to stop learning.  you know, you’re never, you’re never too old to go to another clinic to listen to other,  you know, clinic online or something of that nature. The more you learn, the better you become.  and you’ll be a lot better coach at,  35 than you were at 25 if you do that.

 and then lastly, I would say maybe even most important thing,  is, is really everything is relationship based.  and I don’t care if that’s what your players or your staff or [00:49:00] even other coaches or whomever,  if you can develop relationships,  the coaching is going to be a pretty meaningful profession.

 if it’s all about winning and losing,  I think you’ll find within some time that I’m doing that becomes pretty hollow. Whichever way you do it, win or lose,  and that you, you’re not going to be a Suffield as you could be. So,  I hope you guys,  take that advice and apply it and thanks for having me on.

Mike Klinzing: [00:49:26] Ryan virtue, positive coaching Alliance, Cleveland, Ohio.

Ryan Virtue: [00:49:32] The biggest piece of advice I would give to a young coach just starting out in the coaching profession is know and understand that you coach people first. You coach the athlete first and the sports second. You really need to know and understand the heart and mind of an athlete in order to maximize their body.

Mike Klinzing: [00:49:54] Todd Wolfson, st Francis high school, La Canada, California .

[00:50:00] Todd Wolfson: [00:50:01] How are you doing? This is Todd Wolfson from st Francis high school. I had varsity basketball coach, and I’m going to answer the question today. What advice would I give a young coach. They entered to that to me is one that I got when I was,  just coming up as a, as a coach.

 and it seems pretty simple.  but it actually makes a lot of sense. And that advice to me is that I was given, was do the best at your current job and stop looking for forward towards other jobs. I think sometimes coaches, especially young ones. They want to get ahead so quick. So they start out as lower level Chi school coaches or assistant coaches or graduate assistants, and they’re constantly looking forward to that next job.

What can I do in that next job?  you know, where, where am I going to go after this? What’s going to be my next path? Am I going to be a head coach next? Am I going to be an assistant coach next? And instead they lose sight of doing the best at their current job. [00:51:00] And then with that, they don’t do as well.

They’re not as impressive as a coach. They’re not as impressive as a graduate assistant. They don’t really focus on that current job. Which hurts them in getting promoted so they don’t really get promoted because they’re so focused on that next job. So my advice always is, and the best pride advice I received, and this is whatever you get a job, focus on that job.

Be the best that you possibly can at that job. And then hopefully the next one, we’ll just take care of itself instead of focusing on that next job.  so that’s my advice to,  to a young coach.  hope everyone is staying healthy, staying safe during these times. And,  once again, Todd Wolfson from st Francis high school.

Mike Klinzing: [00:51:40] Thanks. Thanks for checking out this much Roundtable. We’ll be back next month with another question for our all star lineup of coaches.

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